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Jump Shift, or no? Standard American (not necessarily SAYC)

#61 User is offline   barryallen 

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Posted 2008-October-05, 07:11

[quote name='fred' date='Sep 24 2008, 10:07 PM'] [quote name='matmat' date='Sep 25 2008, 03:00 AM']
This hand has question written all over it. You don't know what trump suit (if any) you want to play in so you should give your partner as much space as possible to help you resolve this issue. [/quote]
The big question mark to me as soon as I see my hand and hear an opening 1[cl] bid is the Q[di]. We know we are in slam, but in the back of my mind I would orchestrating things towards this one piece of information, depending upon your system. Partner is going to describe his hand fully in a couple of bids and it looks between [cl], [di] and NT.
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Posted 2008-October-06, 09:55

How often have you made a SJS? How many have detailed understanding about the followups? I think few know what any of the bids after the SJS mean. But everyone knows what rebids after a 1D response show and mean. And most know after 4sf how to reply.

1. If I am playing 4SF, then I bid 1D because I want a natural rebid by opener describing his hand type and strength. If opener rebids 1M, then I need 4sf and will try to obtain more strength info from partner.
But if I am real lucky and opener rebids 1N, 2C, 3C, 2N, 2D, 3D or 2M, I will know what to do.

2. If I am NOT playing 4SF, then I bid 2D to immediately tell partner we are GF and looking for slam. No accidents, pls.

Fred's post describe the Soloway SJS. But if I recall, the Soloway SJS included 3 hand types: 1) Self-sufficent suit, 2) support for partner with good suit of our own, or 3) 19+ HCP, balanced.

We have hand-type #3.

Most are trying to get more info from opener... But an immediate SJS has the advantage of immediately telling opener about GF and slam potential.

So I don't think that either 1D or 2D is "wrong" either way. I only think that one may work better than the other depending on agreements.

I disagree that 1C-2D-2M is automatically a fragment bid without discussion. It certainly does not show any extra strength. Although I probably would not bid it on any suit not headed by an ace or king, I would expect it to show a 4-card suit until trumps are set.

I would expect partner to raise 2D to 3D with 3-card support instead of bidding a major or rebidding clubs with 5. I would not expect partner to bid 3D with ♦Qx.
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