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♠AQJ10x
♥Axx
♦7xxx
♣x
Red, imps.
Partner opens a 13-15 nt.
Plan?
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Posted 2008-September-19, 05:05
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Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
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Posted 2008-September-19, 06:54
I want to play in 4♠. Period.
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Posted 2008-September-19, 09:13
To play either 3NT or 4S.
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Posted 2008-September-19, 09:24
I want to play in 4S if partner has 3 of them.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-September-19, 09:35
It depends.
1. Can partner have five hearts?
2. What are our agreements/conventions?
For example, assume that partner can have five hearts and we play a mice form of Puppet. This is good enough to force a vulnerable, IMP game. But, I want the right spot. So, I could bid 3♣ puppet, as long as partner bids 3NT with hearts or 3♥ with no 4-card or longer major. Then, if partner does bid 3♥, I can show five spades and three hearts by bidding 3♠ (or 3NT if 3♠ relays 3NT, which makes no sense opposite a 13-15 1NT).
If I do not play that, then I'd probably transfer (if we use transfers) before bidding 3♦, if partner can bid 3♥ naturally.
If 2♦ if GF stayman, then that seems obvious. I would intend to rebid spades if partner, for example, bids 2♥, allowing partner to rebid 3♥. Or, maybe he bids 3♥ himself.
Sure, the usefulness of the spade suit is suspect if hearts are trump. But, the stiff is more probably more useful. So, I want hearts considered as much as I can.
1. Can partner have five hearts?
2. What are our agreements/conventions?
For example, assume that partner can have five hearts and we play a mice form of Puppet. This is good enough to force a vulnerable, IMP game. But, I want the right spot. So, I could bid 3♣ puppet, as long as partner bids 3NT with hearts or 3♥ with no 4-card or longer major. Then, if partner does bid 3♥, I can show five spades and three hearts by bidding 3♠ (or 3NT if 3♠ relays 3NT, which makes no sense opposite a 13-15 1NT).
If I do not play that, then I'd probably transfer (if we use transfers) before bidding 3♦, if partner can bid 3♥ naturally.
If 2♦ if GF stayman, then that seems obvious. I would intend to rebid spades if partner, for example, bids 2♥, allowing partner to rebid 3♥. Or, maybe he bids 3♥ himself.
Sure, the usefulness of the spade suit is suspect if hearts are trump. But, the stiff is more probably more useful. So, I want hearts considered as much as I can.
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Posted 2008-September-19, 09:55
kenrexford, on Sep 19 2008, 07:35 AM, said:
If I do not play that, then I'd probably transfer (if we use transfers) before bidding 3♦, if partner can bid 3♥ naturally.
You better check with your pard about this. In my partnerships, 3♥shows a heart stopper (and denies a club stopper), and says nothing about heart length.
It can show: Ax KQx AQxx xxxx.
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Posted 2008-September-19, 10:24
OleBerg, on Sep 19 2008, 06:05 AM, said:
♠AQJ10x
♥Axx
♦7xxx
♣x
Red, imps.
Partner opens a 13-15 nt.
Plan?
♥Axx
♦7xxx
♣x
Red, imps.
Partner opens a 13-15 nt.
Plan?
If you want a specific bidding plan, and want to see if we choose the way you chose, you have to specify the methods in use.
I have one partner who would commit this hand to spades. I have others who would allow partner to make the guess.
I would never show diamonds myself, but I prefer 2 way stayman over this range of 1N, and if partner showed 5 diamonds, I'd get excited: there are a lot of hands on which 6♦ will have real play.
If playing transfers, I'd offer a choice of games. Could work out very badly. Been there, done that.
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Posted 2008-September-19, 10:31
mikeh, on Sep 19 2008, 06:24 PM, said:
OleBerg, on Sep 19 2008, 06:05 AM, said:
♠AQJ10x
♥Axx
♦7xxx
♣x
Red, imps.
Partner opens a 13-15 nt.
Plan?
♥Axx
♦7xxx
♣x
Red, imps.
Partner opens a 13-15 nt.
Plan?
If you want a specific bidding plan, and want to see if we choose the way you chose, you have to specify the methods in use.
I have one partner who would commit this hand to spades. I have others who would allow partner to make the guess.
I would never show diamonds myself, but I prefer 2 way stayman over this range of 1N, and if partner showed 5 diamonds, I'd get excited: there are a lot of hands on which 6♦ will have real play.
If playing transfers, I'd offer a choice of games. Could work out very badly. Been there, done that.
Well, I wanted what you gave me, so thx.
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Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
_____________________________________
We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
_____________________________________
We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
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Posted 2008-September-19, 10:33
pclayton, on Sep 19 2008, 04:55 PM, said:
kenrexford, on Sep 19 2008, 07:35 AM, said:
If I do not play that, then I'd probably transfer (if we use transfers) before bidding 3♦, if partner can bid 3♥ naturally.
You better check with your pard about this. In my partnerships, 3♥shows a heart stopper (and denies a club stopper), and says nothing about heart length.
It can show: Ax KQx AQxx xxxx.
Fine - I bid 4H, pard knows my shape and will correct if he doesn't have hearts.
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