BBO Discussion Forums: Easy 3S? - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Easy 3S?

#1 User is offline   ewj 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 303
  • Joined: 2005-April-12

Posted 2008-September-14, 17:45

Scoring: IMP


You open 1D, playing 4 card diamond suit, strong NT. Partner responds 1S, do you rebid 3S on this or only 2S. No pips at all really (yes I only bid 2).
0

#2 User is offline   rogerclee 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,214
  • Joined: 2007-December-16
  • Location:Pasadena, CA

Posted 2008-September-14, 17:52

2♠
0

#3 User is offline   655321 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,502
  • Joined: 2007-December-22

Posted 2008-September-14, 18:09

3♠
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
0

#4 Guest_Jlall_*

  • Group: Guests

Posted 2008-September-14, 18:24

This reminds me of a hand from the US team trials. I think it was also 15 with a stiff Q. Most people bid 3 and went down in game, a few people bid 2. I would bid 3 but 2 could easily work better. Really uncomfortable hand for me but as meck says when faced with the choice of an overbid or an underbid go with the overbid.
0

#5 User is offline   peachy 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,056
  • Joined: 2007-November-19
  • Location:Pacific Time

Posted 2008-September-14, 22:32

Not easy. Tough between 2S and 3S.
0

#6 User is offline   han 

  • Under bidder
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,797
  • Joined: 2004-July-25
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Amsterdam, the Netherlands

Posted 2008-September-15, 06:00

Don't have strong feelings about this one, could go either way. System plug: With cherdano I play that 3S shows short clubs and then I would bid it for sure.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

- hrothgar
0

#7 User is offline   nige1 

  • 5-level belongs to me
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 9,128
  • Joined: 2004-August-30
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Glasgow Scotland
  • Interests:Poems Computers

Posted 2008-September-15, 07:50

ewj, on Sep 14 2008, 06:45 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

You open 1D, playing 4 card diamond suit, strong NT. Partner responds 1S, do you rebid 3S on this or only 2S. No pips at all really (yes I only bid 2).
IMO 3♠ = 10, 2♠ = 6, 4♣ = 4.
Guthrie.tech
0

#8 User is offline   mcphee 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,514
  • Joined: 2003-February-16

Posted 2008-September-15, 07:59

Sigh, nice hand. In a regular partnership I would bid 2 and let partner get involved, confident we have the right tools to continue. In a less common partnership I suppose you have to take a stab with 3S a wee overbid.
0

#9 User is offline   han 

  • Under bidder
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,797
  • Joined: 2004-July-25
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Amsterdam, the Netherlands

Posted 2008-September-15, 08:44

I don't understand your comment McPhee. Can you explain why your regular partner is more likely to make a gametry than someone else?
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

- hrothgar
0

#10 User is offline   ewj 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 303
  • Joined: 2005-April-12

Posted 2008-September-15, 09:03

Ok I only bid 2 and we had game on :lol: But fair play.

Does the stiff club being the queen make any difference? Just it wouldn't have done in this case.
0

#11 User is offline   pclayton 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 9,151
  • Joined: 2003-June-11
  • Location:Southern California

Posted 2008-September-15, 09:27

Move that black queen somewhere else and I'd 3♠ this. LTC nuts bid 3♠.
"Phil" on BBO
0

#12 User is offline   andy_h 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,962
  • Joined: 2007-September-14
  • Location:Australia
  • Interests:The Universe, Traveling, Squash, and Scandinavia.

Posted 2008-September-15, 09:37

4441, NV and club queen could be dubious - that sways me to 2S. Past threads have convinced me to raise to 2 with these kind of hands (and also playing 1D as an unbal hand :lol:)
- Andy -

We are all connected to each other biologically, to the Earth chemically, and to the rest of the universe atomically.
We're in the universe, and the universe is in us.
0

#13 User is offline   Apollo81 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,162
  • Joined: 2006-July-10
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Maryland

Posted 2008-September-15, 10:44

I would just bid 2♠. I think this is the right bid on value (although it's certainly top of the range) but aside from that, people seem to try for game pretty aggressively after a single raise, so that makes it even easier for me.
0

#14 User is offline   ochinko 

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 647
  • Joined: 2004-May-27
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:Cooking

Posted 2008-September-15, 10:53

pclayton, on Sep 15 2008, 06:27 PM, said:

LTC nuts bid 3♠.

Yep, that would be me.

You don't know how many working points you have with the singleton ♣Q but you do look at 6 losers even without her, so 3♠ it is. Wtp, etc.
0

#15 User is offline   skjaeran 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,727
  • Joined: 2006-June-05
  • Location:Oslo, Norway
  • Interests:Bridge, sports, Sci-fi, fantasy

Posted 2008-September-15, 11:54

I'm always a 2♠ bidder on these hands. Give me a chunkier ♦ suit, and we're talking.
Kind regards,
Harald
0

#16 User is offline   han 

  • Under bidder
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,797
  • Joined: 2004-July-25
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Amsterdam, the Netherlands

Posted 2008-September-15, 14:15

ewj, on Sep 15 2008, 10:03 AM, said:

Ok I only bid 2 and we had game on :P But fair play.

Does the stiff club being the queen make any difference? Just it wouldn't have done in this case.

Not sure what you mean Ed. If the queen is small (ie if you have a 13-count) then I think it would be a clear 2S bid so yes the queen is better than nothing. If you would move the queen into another suit (so that you have a 4441 15-count with a small stiff club) then I think it would be an even clearer 3S bid.

Whatever you meant, that has to answer your question.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

- hrothgar
0

#17 User is offline   ochinko 

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 647
  • Joined: 2004-May-27
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:Cooking

Posted 2008-September-15, 23:02

It's preferable not to have the ♣Q for your 3♠, because you'll know that even lesser number of the point counters will find the game, but at the end you have to bid what you're dealt.
0

#18 User is offline   OleBerg 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 1,950
  • Joined: 2008-April-05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Copenhagen
  • Interests:Model-Railways.

Posted 2008-September-16, 00:10

Easy 3♠ for a compulsory overbidder like me. (Assuming a splinter in 3♣ is not available.)
_____________________________________

Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.

Best Regards Ole Berg

_____________________________________

We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:

- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.

Gnasher
0
Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users