RHO passes, you pass, LHO opens 3♦. Partner doubles. This is passed to you. What's your call?
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#1
Posted 2008-September-14, 16:31
Scoring: IMP
RHO passes, you pass, LHO opens 3♦. Partner doubles. This is passed to you. What's your call?
Adam W. Meyerson
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
#2
Posted 2008-September-14, 17:19
3♥ or 4♣ look reasonable.
I'd probably bid 4♣ (though I'd guess most BBOers will pick 3♥).
I'd probably bid 4♣ (though I'd guess most BBOers will pick 3♥).
Ming
--Always remember you're unique. Just like everyone else.
--Always remember you're unique. Just like everyone else.
#4
Posted 2008-September-15, 07:46
I hate to bid suits I do not have. As you are already a passed hand partner holding short D if under some pressure to take action and is likely playing you for about 8 hcp anyway. I am not tempted to bid anything but C.
#5
Posted 2008-September-15, 08:18
Hmm, it seems 4♦ ("Pick a major pard") is out of the question
Ok, really, we expect partner to have an opening hand (12+ pts) in order to double at level 1, a trick better (15+) for level 2, etc. so he is now 18+ (especially vulnerable). We don't stop ♦, so 3NT is out of the question, but we contribute 3 controls, no wasted values in ♦, why not try a game? We could have a weaker hand or softer values, no?
When else to go for a number if not vuln at IMPs?
Ok, really, we expect partner to have an opening hand (12+ pts) in order to double at level 1, a trick better (15+) for level 2, etc. so he is now 18+ (especially vulnerable). We don't stop ♦, so 3NT is out of the question, but we contribute 3 controls, no wasted values in ♦, why not try a game? We could have a weaker hand or softer values, no?
When else to go for a number if not vuln at IMPs?
#6
Posted 2008-September-15, 08:23
ochinko, on Sep 15 2008, 09:18 AM, said:
Ok, really, we expect partner to have an opening hand (12+ pts) in order to double at level 1, a trick better (15+) for level 2, etc. so he is now 18+ (especially vulnerable). \
Really? You must like getting stolen from...
#7
Posted 2008-September-15, 08:31
I used to bid 4♣ on these hands, but I have been converted to a 3♥ bidder. I bid 4♣ on a similar, or perhaps worse, hand in real life and went for 800 not vulnerable. This lost 12 IMPs to 3♥ not doubled, -150.
OK, that was a sample of just one deal, but it is much easier to double a 4 level contract than a 3 level one.
OK, that was a sample of just one deal, but it is much easier to double a 4 level contract than a 3 level one.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
#8
Posted 2008-September-15, 10:12
3♥ is the standard answer on hands like this. I will admit I am very close to passing, since my assets include an A and a K.
"Phil" on BBO
#10
Posted 2008-September-15, 11:12
awm, on Sep 14 2008, 05:31 PM, said:
Scoring: IMP
RHO passes, you pass, LHO opens 3♦. Partner doubles. This is passed to you. What's your call?
RHO passes, you pass, LHO opens 3♦. Partner doubles. This is passed to you. What's your call?
IMO 3{HE] = 10, 4♣ = 9, _P = 7
#11
Posted 2008-September-16, 12:37
Scoring: IMP
Passing is a huge disaster, as 3♦X makes easily. Bidding 3NT is also pretty bad (opponents will take the first six tricks, and you will probably lose a seventh trick for -300). Forcing to game in partner's better major is likely two down, and there is a small chance of getting doubled as well.
At the table I bid 4♣ and after the high diamond lead, west switched to the spade jack (east signaled for spades by playing a high diamond to the first trick). At this point 4♣ makes on careful play, and I scored up +130. Letting 3♥ make would require more defensive errors.
Teammates bid P-P-2♦-X-3♦-all pass and scored up +110, so we won a few IMPs on the board.
Adam W. Meyerson
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
a.k.a. Appeal Without Merit
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