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#1 User is offline   catch22 

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Posted 2008-September-12, 11:10

Scoring: IMP

1S-(P)-2C-(3D)
3S-(P)-?


What do you bid on this hand and is it obvious?
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Posted 2008-September-12, 11:40

3N is obvious. Pard isn't precluded from bidding 4♠ and I'd like to protect the ♦ K on the opening lead.
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Posted 2008-September-12, 12:13

Can't see anything wrong with that.
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Posted 2008-September-12, 12:19

Thrump.
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Posted 2008-September-12, 13:43

Hi,

depends on the meaning of 2C, if it was gf,
3NT is clear.
If it was SAYC style, and pass over 3D would
have been

#1 forcing, pass is an option, since 3S was
openers weakest action.

#2 non nonforcing, 3S should show something
additional, how much, no idea.

The equation changes also depending on the
opening style.

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Marlowe
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Posted 2008-September-12, 13:46

If I had to guess the final contract, I would pick 4♠ which I think is a little more likely than 3NT to be the right place. However, since partner is not barred, he is welcome to bid 4♠ when it's right, so 3NT is obvious.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2008-September-12, 13:48

3N what else ?

Opener can bid 4♠ if he likes. Opener could've passed their 3♦ with junk. I am happy to be in a 40% game VUL at IMPs although I do expect better chances.
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Posted 2008-September-12, 14:19

3N...
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Posted 2008-September-12, 19:10

catch22, on Sep 12 2008, 12:10 PM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1S-(P)-2C-(3D)
3S-(P)-?
What do you bid on this hand and is it obvious?
IMO _P = 10, 3N=9, 4♠=8
Guess partner has something like ♠KQJxxx ♥x ♦ Jxx ♣AJx
If partner is short in hearts then, in a notrump contract, ♥ is more likely to be your Achilles heel than ♦. However if ♦AQ lie over your ♦K, 4♠ may play badly.
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Posted 2008-September-13, 05:57

No it's not obvious.

I think it's very close between 3NT and 4S. If my DK were the Ace, then 4S would be obvious.

I don't think partner will pull 3NT nearly as often as the optimistic posters think he will.
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Posted 2008-September-13, 09:43

FrancesHinden, on Sep 13 2008, 06:57 AM, said:

No it's not obvious.

I think it's very close between 3NT and 4S.  If my DK were the Ace, then 4S would be obvious.

I don't think partner will pull 3NT nearly as often as the optimistic posters think he will.

The DK being the ace is a huge change given that the main reason to bid 3N is to protect your DK imo.
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Posted 2008-September-13, 10:49

FrancesHinden, on Sep 13 2008, 06:57 AM, said:

No it's not obvious.

I think it's very close between 3NT and 4S. If my DK were the Ace, then 4S would be obvious.

I don't think partner will pull 3NT nearly as often as the optimistic posters think he will.

He doesn't have to pull that often for bidding 3NT to be right. If 4♠ is right 60% of the time and 3NT is right 40% of the time, he only has to pull 1/3 of the time that 4♠ is better for our 3NT bid to be right (yeah I know, assuming he never pulls when 3NT was better).
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Posted 2008-September-14, 11:19

3NT. It's not plainstakingly obvious, but still a pretty clear choice. The alternative being 4♠, of course.
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