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Do you play that a support double shows extra ? or do you bid it with any minimum hand with 3 card fit ? im talking about a 1/2 level support double.
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Support Double What does it show ?
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Posted 2004-April-10, 16:08
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Posted 2004-April-10, 17:22
Most of players like to bid anything, if they only can 
, so they do support dbl/rdbl with any hand. IMHO better way is to bid sd/rd if you really like to play 4-3 fit at this level.
, so they do support dbl/rdbl with any hand. IMHO better way is to bid sd/rd if you really like to play 4-3 fit at this level.
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Posted 2004-April-10, 22:53
I am one of the few people that play Support X and XX upto and including 3♥. But when we get that high, I tend to have a somewhat better hand then a minimum. But at 1 and 2 level it doesn't matter, min or max I will support. That is the idea behind it.
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Posted 2004-April-11, 05:44
Flame, on Apr 11 2004, 11:08 AM, said:
Do you play that a support double shows extra ? or do you bid it with any minimum hand with 3 card fit ? im talking about a 1/2 level support double.
Maybe I'm missing something but surely the whole point of supp X andXX was to show 3 card support for partners suit? --- ESPECIALLY of only playing them up to the 2 level
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Posted 2004-April-11, 06:11
bearmum, on Apr 11 2004, 11:44 AM, said:
Flame, on Apr 11 2004, 11:08 AM, said:
Do you play that a support double shows extra ? or do you bid it with any minimum hand with 3 card fit ? im talking about a 1/2 level support double.
Maybe I'm missing something but surely the whole point of supp X andXX was to show 3 card support for partners suit? --- ESPECIALLY of only playing them up to the 2 level
But do you always want to show three card support?
eg ♠5432 ♥432 ♦AK2 ♣AQ2
After 1♣ (P) 1♥ (1♠) do you really think it is important to show 3 card ♥ support? Even 1♥ may be too high!
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Posted 2004-April-11, 06:37
EricK, on Apr 11 2004, 12:11 PM, said:
But do you always want to show three card support?
eg ♠5432 ♥432 ♦AK2 ♣AQ2
After 1♣ (P) 1♥ (1♠) do you really think it is important to show 3 card ♥ support? Even 1♥ may be too high!
Eric
eg ♠5432 ♥432 ♦AK2 ♣AQ2
After 1♣ (P) 1♥ (1♠) do you really think it is important to show 3 card ♥ support? Even 1♥ may be too high!
Eric
Yes.
Before the 1♠ bid we were committed to higher than 1♥ - now although RHO has given us the opportunity of getting out of the auction, the value of efficiently showing 3-card support is considered greater value by us.
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Posted 2004-April-11, 08:41
EricK, on Apr 11 2004, 07:11 AM, said:
bearmum, on Apr 11 2004, 11:44 AM, said:
Flame, on Apr 11 2004, 11:08 AM, said:
Do you play that a support double shows extra ? or do you bid it with any minimum hand with 3 card fit ? im talking about a 1/2 level support double.
Maybe I'm missing something but surely the whole point of supp X andXX was to show 3 card support for partners suit? --- ESPECIALLY of only playing them up to the 2 level
But do you always want to show three card support?
eg ♠5432 ♥432 ♦AK2 ♣AQ2
After 1♣ (P) 1♥ (1♠) do you really think it is important to show 3 card ♥ support? Even 1♥ may be too high!
Eric
My opinion is to show the 3 card support here. If partner have 5 card suit he will not bid again unless i'll double here, he might not even bid a 6 card suit b/c i can have 0-2 cards in the suit.
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Posted 2004-April-11, 09:28
EricK, on Apr 11 2004, 09:11 PM, said:
always want to show three card support?
eg ♠5432 ♥432 ♦AK2 ♣AQ2
After 1♣ (P) 1♥ (1♠) do you really think it is important to show 3 card ♥ support? Even 1♥ may be too high!
Eric
eg ♠5432 ♥432 ♦AK2 ♣AQ2
After 1♣ (P) 1♥ (1♠) do you really think it is important to show 3 card ♥ support? Even 1♥ may be too high!
Eric
That's why we play weak NT
About support Dbl: I play that until 2♥, double after all higher bids are take-out... Supp dbl for me is just a 3 card support, from minimum opening till maximum opener. partner won't pass, and then we can bid some forcing stuff to move on when we are strong.
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Posted 2004-April-14, 12:26
I agree that weak NT and support X and XX really go good together.
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so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
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so much the better. If there is restlessness, I am pleased. Then let there
be ideas, and hard thought, and hard work.”
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Posted 2004-April-14, 12:35
Flame, on Apr 10 2004, 05:08 PM, said:
Do you play that a support double shows extra ? or do you bid it with any minimum hand with 3 card fit ? im talking about a 1/2 level support double.
No. I do not play support double/redouble show extra. It simply shows 3 card support, and must be made below the level of two of may partners suit.
Having said that, I really, really prefer not to play support redouble, and I am not wildly fond of support doulbe either. I prefer "takeout dbl" and either penalty oriented redbl, rosenkrantz redbouble, or transfer redbouble.
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