[gwnn]

A
xx
KTxx
AKQxxx

1♣-p-1♠-2♥

The person holding this hand now bid a bad bid of 3♦.

What would you need to change in this hand to actually be a 3♦ bid?

[helene_t]

I don't think 3♦ is so bad. Surely an overbid but if not playing G/B2NT, 3♣ would be an underbid.

Make the hand just slightly better and I think I would bid 3♦. One extra club i.o. a heart, the jack of clubs, or replace ♦K with the ace.

[benlessard]

A high reverse like this is 100% GF. You need a very big hand to make a high reverse with xx in the opps suit.

A
xx
ATxx
AKQJTx

This is not really enough since partner will need magic in D to make game.

A
xx
Axx
AKQJTxx

Even with this monster hand (enough to bid 3D) Im not sure that game will make more than 50%. At Imps you cannot afford to miss game but at MP you dont need to force to game if you feel that game are less than 50%.

[han]

benlessard, on Sep 3 2008, 05:44 AM, said:

A high reverse like this is 100% GF. You need a very big hand to make a high reverse with xx in the opps suit.

A
xx
ATxx
AKQJTx

This is not really enough since partner will need magic in D to make game.

Or a heart stopper?

In this auction you have no room. You either force to game or you make a serious underbid. Requiring a hand where game is more than 50% even if partner has a misfitting minimum isn't right.

I think the actual hand is very close to 3D.

[FrancesHinden]

I don't think 3D is game forcing (in particular, I think I can pass 4C from partner).
I certainly don't think it shows "Axx" it definitely shows a diamond suit.

I agree that this hand isn't far short. Make the DK the ace and give me the C10.

[benlessard]

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In this auction you have no room. You either force to game or you make a serious underbid. Requiring a hand where game is more than 50% even if partner has a misfitting minimum isn't right.

I think the actual hand is very close to 3D.

If you play good bad or if X followed by 3C is possible (not playing support double) then the strong 3C isnt a big underbid. At MP it doesnt make sense to GF and expect to be minus more than 50%. There is no doubt in my mind that with

A
xx
ATxx
AKQJTx

with the bidding

1C-----(P)-------1S----------(2H)
3C (str)---all pass
And more than 50% of the times ill be happy to not be in game and it wouldnt surprised me that much to see 3C go down.

I dont think its likely partner got a H stopper but if hes got a soft one (K or Q) i doubt RHO will give ur our 9th trick by leading the suit.

3D with
A
xx
KTxx
AKQxxx is just plain bad.

[P_Marlowe]

Another King, ... or another diamond
(and the Ace of spades being the Ace
of diamonds would feel me better in this
case).

With kind regards
Marlowe

[jdonn]

It was only a mild overbid, could be right some days. Change the diamond king into the ace and 3♦ is totally obvious.