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Does anyone have a good structure over a 2♦ strong and unlimited opening?
Maybe "good" is too much to ask for when you start this high - how about a workable structure.
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Posted 2008-September-01, 20:37
Wayne Burrows
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2008-September-01, 20:41
Many frenchs play 2D as GF.
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Posted 2008-September-01, 21:21
Bocchi-Duboin:
2♥: waiting
2♠: 5+♥s
2NT: 5+♠s
3♣: 5+♦s
3♦: 5+♣s
In 04 and 05 was 3♣=6+♦s, 3♦=6+♥s
See also ETM Gold pages 30 and 92-93.
However do you perhaps mean 2♦ is strong, unlimited, and natural?
2♥: waiting
2♠: 5+♥s
2NT: 5+♠s
3♣: 5+♦s
3♦: 5+♣s
In 04 and 05 was 3♣=6+♦s, 3♦=6+♥s
See also ETM Gold pages 30 and 92-93.
However do you perhaps mean 2♦ is strong, unlimited, and natural?
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Posted 2008-September-01, 22:09
glen, on Sep 2 2008, 03:21 PM, said:
However do you perhaps mean 2♦ is strong, unlimited, and natural?
No not natural
Wayne Burrows
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2008-September-01, 22:12
glen, on Sep 2 2008, 03:21 PM, said:
Bocchi-Duboin:
2♥: waiting
2♠: 5+♥s
2NT: 5+♠s
3♣: 5+♦s
3♦: 5+♣s
In 04 and 05 was 3♣=6+♦s, 3♦=6+♥s
2♥: waiting
2♠: 5+♥s
2NT: 5+♠s
3♣: 5+♦s
3♦: 5+♣s
In 04 and 05 was 3♣=6+♦s, 3♦=6+♥s
Yes I found Bocchi Duboin.
Curiously their card says for 2♦ that it shows a minimum of 2 diamonds. Does this mean that their game force is is based on a balanced hand at therefore that their 1-level openings are unlimited.
Wayne Burrows
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
I believe that the USA currently hold only the World Championship For People Who Still Bid Like Your Auntie Gladys - dburn
dunno how to play 4 card majors - JLOGIC
True but I know Standard American and what better reason could I have for playing Precision? - Hideous Hog
Bidding is an estimation of probabilities SJ Simon
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Posted 2008-September-02, 04:11
In Rosencranz' "Standard International" (anyone can feel free to correct this, I'm going on memory):
2♥ - 0-1 controls
2♠ - 2 controls
2N - 3 controls
3♣ - 4 controls
3♦ - 5+ controls
3♥ - Minimum 5-5 in majors
3♠ - Better 5-5 in the majors
3N - 7 card minor; 2 of top 3 honors (nothing else)
4♣/4♦ - 5M5M-3[m]
4M - 7 card major; 2 of top 3 (nothing else)
Schenken 2♦:
2♥ - no Aces
2♠, 2N, 3♣, 3♦ - That ace (NT = ♥). 3♥+ = That ace + one higher (I think)
The next suit scans for Kings, and then Q's.
2♥ - 0-1 controls
2♠ - 2 controls
2N - 3 controls
3♣ - 4 controls
3♦ - 5+ controls
3♥ - Minimum 5-5 in majors
3♠ - Better 5-5 in the majors
3N - 7 card minor; 2 of top 3 honors (nothing else)
4♣/4♦ - 5M5M-3[m]
4M - 7 card major; 2 of top 3 (nothing else)
Schenken 2♦:
2♥ - no Aces
2♠, 2N, 3♣, 3♦ - That ace (NT = ♥). 3♥+ = That ace + one higher (I think)
The next suit scans for Kings, and then Q's.
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Posted 2008-September-02, 05:52
Standard french bidding over 2♦ GH is along these lines :
- 2♥ no Ace
- 2♠ Ace of Heart or Spade
- 2NT 8+ HCP
- 3♣ Ace of club
- 3♦ A of Diamond
-3♥ through 3NT 2 aces (same color, rank, mixed)
some variation aound that scheme exist but do not think there are a big improvement; think you strike gold every three year or so but otherwise the approach is flawed (no to mention it requires a lot of work to deal with subsequent bidding for something which happens very rarely)
- 2♥ no Ace
- 2♠ Ace of Heart or Spade
- 2NT 8+ HCP
- 3♣ Ace of club
- 3♦ A of Diamond
-3♥ through 3NT 2 aces (same color, rank, mixed)
some variation aound that scheme exist but do not think there are a big improvement; think you strike gold every three year or so but otherwise the approach is flawed (no to mention it requires a lot of work to deal with subsequent bidding for something which happens very rarely)
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Posted 2008-September-02, 05:54
I think it depends on what the 2♦ opening shows.
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