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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2008-August-26, 01:00


Dealer: South
Vul: All
Scoring: IMP
♠ QT8754
♥ 2
♦ 3
♣ 95432


West North East South

 -     -     -     Pass
 Pass  1♦    2♣    Pass
 2♥    Pass  4♥    4♠
 5♥    Dbl   Pass  ?  


Would you have bid 4♠ and what now?
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Posted 2008-August-26, 01:37

Would not have bid 4S, your long clubs are a (huge) liability on offense, and your stiff diamond gives you some defense. Would definitely pass now, partner knows our hand is weak with long spades and has doubled them.
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Posted 2008-August-26, 02:01

Hi,

I would have opened 2S, or 3S, matter of style, but
I can live with pass.
I would not have bid 4S, one reason, the bid should
show diamond tolerance.
Now I pass, the question is, what else, where do I
want to go? Acutally the bid worked well, they have to
play 5H instead of 4H, partner opened, he may have 3
tricks to beat the contract.
If it makes, we are just speaking about add. -200, not
a worst case scenario.

I am assuming partner takes his 3 tricks, and does not get
greedy, ... because I must have something for my bid.

With kind regards
Marlowe
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Posted 2008-August-26, 08:47

Pass and be glad you got a 2nd chance here. Pard will usually hold a weak-NT type hand. A trump lead would have crushed 4♠.
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Posted 2008-August-26, 09:03

Jlall, on Aug 26 2008, 02:37 AM, said:

Would not have bid 4S, your long clubs are a (huge) liability on offense, and your stiff diamond gives you some defense. Would definitely pass now, partner knows our hand is weak with long spades and has doubled them.

agree.

BTW, I understand the temptation to bid, and I think that having the courage to do so is important.. but not on this auction.... there is no safe inference that partner has a real spade fit and our long clubs (all of which are potential losers) make it extremely dangerous to bid. Now, if we had a 6=1=4=2, same hand, the gamble is much better, even tho we may still be going 800 or more.

Don't panic if they make it. -850 is not a disaster when they were always 650. +200 when you were -620 is a triumph :P
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Posted 2008-August-26, 09:03

The original 4S bid seems a bit too much for me with only 6 of them.

Now it's obvious to pass. You have shown a hand with long spades and no high cards, that's what you've got.
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