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Having made a penalty pass of 1♦, your vulnerable opponents are now up to 3♠.
Do you feel compelled to act now?
Paul
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Posted 2008-August-18, 09:25
Having made a penalty pass of 1♦, your vulnerable opponents are now up to 3♠.
Do you feel compelled to act now?
Paul
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Posted 2008-August-18, 09:32
Yes, double for me.
Other options are 4♠ or 5♣ (hoping partner is not 4333 or similar!), or to have raised clubs last round.
When partner opened 1♣ we had a suspicion that the opponents had at least 9 spades between them, and it is not unexpected that they have discovered their spade fit.
Other options are 4♠ or 5♣ (hoping partner is not 4333 or similar!), or to have raised clubs last round.
When partner opened 1♣ we had a suspicion that the opponents had at least 9 spades between them, and it is not unexpected that they have discovered their spade fit.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-August-18, 09:43
Opponents bidding and raising my void is an unexpected twist? I bid 4♣ now which my partner should understand includes a penalty pass of diamonds. Sorry if you are 4333 
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2008-August-18, 09:47
jdonn, on Aug 18 2008, 07:43 AM, said:
Opponents bidding and raising my void is an unexpected twist? I bid 4♣ now which my partner should understand includes a penalty pass of diamonds. Sorry if you are 4333
Agree with this. My spades aren't good enough to double now.
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Posted 2008-August-18, 15:03
Is the penalty pass of 1♦ the preferred choice among you guys?
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Posted 2008-August-18, 15:49
jtfanclub, on Aug 18 2008, 04:03 PM, said:
Is the penalty pass of 1♦ the preferred choice among you guys?
Yes, it gave me the opportunity to describe my hand almost perfectly on the given auction (which is of course not a guarantee that it will work out well). Long good diamonds, club support, short spades, about this much strength.
BTW didn't think through my answer before, but partner has two diamonds at most of course, so I guess 4423 is really the only shape to worry about since 4333 is not possible, and far more likely he has 4+ clubs.
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Posted 2008-August-18, 20:11
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Posted 2008-August-19, 00:29
jtfanclub, on Aug 18 2008, 11:03 PM, said:
Is the penalty pass of 1♦ the preferred choice among you guys?
Why what are you advocating? 1N? 2D? 3S?
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2008-August-19, 00:42
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Posted 2008-August-19, 01:11
Unsurprisingly partner has a minimum 4414 hand and 4♣ is a lot better than double, especially as they have 9 tricks.
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Posted 2008-August-19, 08:05
gwnn, on Aug 19 2008, 01:29 AM, said:
jtfanclub, on Aug 18 2008, 11:03 PM, said:
Is the penalty pass of 1♦ the preferred choice among you guys?
Why what are you advocating? 1N? 2D? 3S?
It would be 2♦ (LR of clubs or GF), but I'm not advocating it.
Just wondering if if the pass was standard here.
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Posted 2008-August-20, 06:00
Perhaps its worth mentioning that 1♣ could be on a doubleton in a weak no trump (11-13) hand. Is 4♣ still so attractive - i thought my options at the table were really between double and pass.
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Posted 2008-August-20, 06:19
gipsona, on Aug 20 2008, 01:00 PM, said:
Perhaps its worth mentioning that 1♣ could be on a doubleton in a weak no trump (11-13) hand. Is 4♣ still so attractive - i thought my options at the table were really between double and pass.
It's most unlikely to be a weak doubleton now. If the 1♦ overcall was on a five-card suit, partner has at most two diamonds, and therefore at least three clubs.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-August-20, 09:59
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Penalty of Diamonds, takeout of spades.
Penalty of Diamonds, takeout of spades.
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Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Posted 2008-August-20, 10:48
OleBerg, on Aug 20 2008, 04:59 PM, said:
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Penalty of Diamonds, takeout of spades.
Penalty of Diamonds, takeout of spades.
You must have nerves of steel. I'm not sure that I'd survive the pause whilst partner thought about whether to leave it in.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-August-21, 02:36
gnasher, on Aug 20 2008, 06:48 PM, said:
OleBerg, on Aug 20 2008, 04:59 PM, said:
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Penalty of Diamonds, takeout of spades.
Penalty of Diamonds, takeout of spades.
You must have nerves of steel. I'm not sure that I'd survive the pause whilst partner thought about whether to leave it in.
I'm as cold as strawberry-icecream.
No really, I have it as a specific system note, that passing an overcall and the doubling a new suit has this meaning.
It occurs so infrequently, that I cannot say if it is good or bad. I simply adopted it from Robson & Seagal.
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Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
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