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Everybodes agrees that bidding 1♠ holding ♠ 8753 ♥ 752 ♦ 873 ♣ 962 in first seat is a bad psyche.
But what makes a good psychic bid?
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But what makes a good psyche?
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Posted 2008-August-18, 04:49
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Finding your own mistakes is more productive than looking for partner's. It improves your game and is good for your soul. (Nige1)
Finding your own mistakes is more productive than looking for partner's. It improves your game and is good for your soul. (Nige1)
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Posted 2008-August-18, 05:09
You harm opps more than your partner.
You have some control over the auction.
You have a "save spot" to play.
Lets take a classic:
Opening strong 1NT with:
♠xxx ♥ xxx ♦- ♣KQTxxxx
You can handle almost any response partner can make:
pass over 2♣ Stayman
execute transfer and play the 5-3 major fit
and if partner passes or opps dbl you can run to 2/3♣.
If 3♣ is transfer to ♦ you can even handle that.
You have some control over the auction.
You have a "save spot" to play.
Lets take a classic:
Opening strong 1NT with:
♠xxx ♥ xxx ♦- ♣KQTxxxx
You can handle almost any response partner can make:
pass over 2♣ Stayman
execute transfer and play the 5-3 major fit
and if partner passes or opps dbl you can run to 2/3♣.
If 3♣ is transfer to ♦ you can even handle that.
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Posted 2008-August-18, 05:15
The best psyches are one shot deals: Either it works immediately or it does not. If nobody looks at your hand, they may not know you psyched.
psyches risk 2 things: The obvious risk is the current hand. The less obvious risk is all future hands where partner may hesitate believing you when sometimes it seems you are playing with a pinocle deck.
No question psyches are fun when they work. B/I consider psyches cheating.
IMO, an expert psyching against a B/I is unethical.
This was not the stupidest psyche I have ever seen. Opening weak 2 in 3rd seat on Jxxx and out and then blaming partner when partner bid aggressively on 10 HCP and Kxxx support.
psyches risk 2 things: The obvious risk is the current hand. The less obvious risk is all future hands where partner may hesitate believing you when sometimes it seems you are playing with a pinocle deck.
No question psyches are fun when they work. B/I consider psyches cheating.
IMO, an expert psyching against a B/I is unethical.
This was not the stupidest psyche I have ever seen. Opening weak 2 in 3rd seat on Jxxx and out and then blaming partner when partner bid aggressively on 10 HCP and Kxxx support.
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Posted 2008-August-18, 08:58
Psyching a cue-bid in a suit you don't want led, usually against a slam, is one that is used quite often.
More risky but often effective is faking a suit on the way to 3NT to avert a lead in it.
Also effective can be faking a ♠ suit opposite a ♥ pre-empt when you have ♥ support to run if they start doubling. Opponents with good methods can nullify the effect of the psyche, but those without good agreements will have a lot more trouble.
In each of these situations, you know a lot about the hand already, and you have a specific objective you wish to accomplish, your pard will usually not go crazy, and you have a fall back if the psyche is revealed. That's what makes a good psyche.
Random openings with no clear objective, no safety net, and no expectation to gain are bad psyches.
More risky but often effective is faking a suit on the way to 3NT to avert a lead in it.
Also effective can be faking a ♠ suit opposite a ♥ pre-empt when you have ♥ support to run if they start doubling. Opponents with good methods can nullify the effect of the psyche, but those without good agreements will have a lot more trouble.
In each of these situations, you know a lot about the hand already, and you have a specific objective you wish to accomplish, your pard will usually not go crazy, and you have a fall back if the psyche is revealed. That's what makes a good psyche.
Random openings with no clear objective, no safety net, and no expectation to gain are bad psyches.
The difference between theory and practice is that in theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is.
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Posted 2008-August-18, 09:02
Didn't somebody write about this in his or her blog? Worth checking.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-August-19, 01:20
han, on Aug 18 2008, 11:02 PM, said:
Didn't somebody write about this in his or her blog? Worth checking.
Justin's? I don't remember it being in anybody's blog....
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Posted 2008-August-19, 01:32
who cares? the real question is what makes a good psycho...
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Posted 2008-August-19, 01:47
Rossoneri, on Aug 19 2008, 02:20 AM, said:
han, on Aug 18 2008, 11:02 PM, said:
Didn't somebody write about this in his or her blog? Worth checking.
Justin's? I don't remember it being in anybody's blog....
I think this is what han is talking about.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-August-19, 02:01
655321, on Aug 19 2008, 02:47 AM, said:
Rossoneri, on Aug 19 2008, 02:20 AM, said:
han, on Aug 18 2008, 11:02 PM, said:
Didn't somebody write about this in his or her blog? Worth checking.
Justin's? I don't remember it being in anybody's blog....
I think this is what han is talking about.
Heh, can't believe it's been over 2 years since I wrote that. Anyways, agree with what I wrote then
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Posted 2008-August-19, 02:03
SoTired, on Aug 18 2008, 06:15 AM, said:
IMO, an expert psyching against a B/I is unethical.
Really disagree with this. I agree with the sentiment about not psyching against a B/I as an expert but I would never call someone who did that unethical.
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Posted 2008-August-19, 02:18
"Really disagree with this"
strongly agree with J-LoL
I mean, if for example you psyche a cuebid to get a favorable lead, what's in it for the B/I other than a "lesson learned". (Sourgrapes don't count.)
strongly agree with J-LoL
I mean, if for example you psyche a cuebid to get a favorable lead, what's in it for the B/I other than a "lesson learned". (Sourgrapes don't count.)
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