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The light brigade

Poll: Your call (40 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call

  1. Pass (7 votes [17.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.50%

  2. Double (22 votes [55.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 55.00%

  3. I would open the bidding (11 votes [27.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.50%

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#21 User is offline   skjaeran 

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Posted 2008-August-18, 12:30

Pass or 1 initially are both OK with me.

After passing this is an easy double IMO. If I'm not doubling with this I'll just as well put in my notes that the auction p (4) p (p) X doesn't exist.
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Posted 2008-August-19, 13:46

[quote name='nige1' date='Aug 18 2008, 11:37 AM'] [quote name='nige1' date='Aug 17 2008, 06:21 PM']
Scoring: IMP

We are told
"It was a team match (10 bards per session) and after North bid 4[he] East asked if it were the last board of the session. It was. He then said he hadn't noted the scores and asked for the official score sheet (scored by North). It was given to him and he proceeded to copy all of the scores. This took (estimate of NS) between 1-1/2 and 2 minutes. He then glanced at his hand again and passed. He had probably had about 20 seconds to look at his hand before he asked for the official score sheet."
The bidding continued
_P (4[he]) _P (_P)
_X (_P) 4[sp] (5[he])
_P (_P) _X (_P)
_P (XX) AP
4[he]XX-2 = -600
NS call the director. Ruling?
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Wrong time to copy score when it is your turn to call. He had already taken 20 seconds to think, now he took another however-long-it-took-to-copy-all-the-scores to think about it some more, and then Pass. Copying scores between hands is fine, while dummy probably fine, but not when it is your turn to call! If he was so interested in scores, he could have written them down after each hand. This writing chore while it is your turn to call could easily be interpreted as hiding the fact you needed more time to think about what you wanted to bid/call. Someone should have called the TD while East's housekeeping was in process.

However, the reopening Dbl is normal - close to automatic by an originally passed hand - that even if there had been UI from the break of tempo, it should be allowed. The Rdbl so much in error that the result should stand. Just my two cents...
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Posted 2008-August-19, 17:01

I don't think that the tanker's actions, no matter how intended/interpreted, had any impact on the result. The overwhelming majority of good players reopen with double. Add to that the fact that the final result was to a large degree the result of a stupid (and I mean, stupid) redouble. It seems to have been a classic double-shot and I think that committees should be on the alert to make it clear that this kind of tactic is invoked at considerable risk.
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