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#1 User is offline   cnszsun 

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Posted 2008-August-09, 19:31

Scoring: IMP

1-(2)-??

Your call?
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Posted 2008-August-09, 19:33

4H
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Posted 2008-August-09, 19:36

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Posted 2008-August-09, 19:43

i 4 too, but 5 would down, 3nt make.
Just to confirm that was not a terrible bid.
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Posted 2008-August-09, 20:34

This is an obvious 3NT bid. How can you deny holding such a good H stopper?

Just kidding. 4H also.
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Posted 2008-August-09, 20:45

i guess bidding 3nt is the only way to avoid the rule where dummy should never put down an 8 card suit.

I guess following these rules work :)
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Posted 2008-August-10, 00:54

Are you a little worried about how much space you are taking up with 4, putting partner to a guess if he is slam interested? How well defined is it? Is partner meant to expect that you have no outside control?
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Posted 2008-August-11, 12:25

The idea of playing in 3NT when you have 8-card support and a void in hearts is very amusing.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-August-11, 12:36

EricK, on Aug 10 2008, 01:54 AM, said:

Are you a little worried about how much space you are taking up with 4, putting partner to a guess if he is slam interested? How well defined is it? Is partner meant to expect that you have no outside control?

If he has an uncontrolled suit and clearly bad trumps, I'm not that worried about what he expects since I know what he will do!
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Posted 2008-August-11, 14:35

han, on Aug 11 2008, 01:25 PM, said:

The idea of playing in 3NT when you have 8-card support and a void in hearts is very amusing.

Not really. Suppose that instead of opening 1, partner had opened 1NT (weak), which is after all by far the most likely hand type for him when the auction starts in this way. Would you be amused if I, as your partner, failed to consider the idea of playing in 3NT? Would you fail to consider the idea yourself?
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Posted 2008-August-11, 15:35

Let us not touch the subject of whether I would be amused with you as a partner.

But not only has partner opened in our 8-card suit, the opponents have also bid hearts, the suit in which we have a void. We cannot show our support and shortness below 3NT. It seems madness to aim for 3NT.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-August-11, 21:35

I don't like 4 with such good trump. It really stymies partner.

I prefer 3 and then 4 over most continuations. This way we'll get more information out of the weak NT across the table.
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Posted 2008-August-12, 05:51

EricK, on Aug 10 2008, 07:54 AM, said:

Are you a little worried about how much space you are taking up with 4, putting partner to a guess if he is slam interested? How well defined is it? Is partner meant to expect that you have no outside control?

I think a splinter in a contested auction is less well-defined than a splinter in a contested auction*. This is because we cannot go slow with such great support - opps are likely to bid 4 before our next turn.

*Other things being equal, that is. In an uncontested auction, maybe 3 rather than 4 would be the splinter.
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Posted 2008-August-12, 08:28

3H.. then pass 3NT..partner won't bid just 3NT with good hand
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