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West North East South
- 1♥ 2NT Dbl
Pass Pass 3♣ Dbl
Pass 3NT Pass Pass
Pass
No agreements over U2nt, great contract but I dont think too much of the bidding.
What agreements could we have?
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nice shape, ugly suit
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Posted 2008-August-02, 10:47
West North East South
- 1♥ 2NT Dbl
Pass Pass 3♣ Dbl
Pass 3NT Pass Pass
Pass
No agreements over U2nt, great contract but I dont think too much of the bidding.
What agreements could we have?
It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.
"You need to play a lot of stuff these days just to deal with the stuff your opponents are playing" DBurn
"You need to play a lot of stuff these days just to deal with the stuff your opponents are playing" DBurn
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Posted 2008-August-02, 11:13
You may want to look at Unusual versus Unusual. Here is a link: http://bridgehands.c...sus_Unusual.htm
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Posted 2008-August-02, 13:10
I like the auction until 3NT, I think north has a clear pass. The double of 3C is penalty and north has no reason to pull it.
Unusual over unusual is a good convention to know for (upcoming) advanced players.
Unusual over unusual is a good convention to know for (upcoming) advanced players.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-August-02, 14:26
North should totally pass.
Double of 2NT followed by double of 3♣ is penalty. What's not to like about Jx?
Also, on the bidding I definitely wouldn't bet on this contract making.
Double of 2NT followed by double of 3♣ is penalty. What's not to like about Jx?
Also, on the bidding I definitely wouldn't bet on this contract making.
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Posted 2008-August-02, 15:52
Hi,
#1 unusal vs. unusual was already mentioned
#2 double of 2NT could show either a hand, which is
interested in making a penalty double against
one suit shown by 2NT, hence would create a
forcing pass situation, or you could play it as
showing a bal. hand with +11HCP, we play the
later.
A delayed double, i.e. the guy direct behing the 2NT
passed first would be for t/o.
With kind regards
Marlowe
PS: As others hav said, North should pass the double, the
only justification for bidding 3NT is, that North may have
feared not getting enough vs. a vulnerable game, although
I dont think he as reason to fear this, since he cant be sure
that game is making, ... he should remember the saying that
"a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush".
#1 unusal vs. unusual was already mentioned
#2 double of 2NT could show either a hand, which is
interested in making a penalty double against
one suit shown by 2NT, hence would create a
forcing pass situation, or you could play it as
showing a bal. hand with +11HCP, we play the
later.
A delayed double, i.e. the guy direct behing the 2NT
passed first would be for t/o.
With kind regards
Marlowe
PS: As others hav said, North should pass the double, the
only justification for bidding 3NT is, that North may have
feared not getting enough vs. a vulnerable game, although
I dont think he as reason to fear this, since he cant be sure
that game is making, ... he should remember the saying that
"a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush".
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2008-August-02, 18:31
Agree with Han.
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Posted 2008-August-02, 19:47
Great auction until north removed the double. You were getting them for a big number.
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Posted 2008-August-02, 19:55
I am sympathetic to the pull due to the vulnerability.
I still wouldn't do it...partner knows the vulnerability too!
I still wouldn't do it...partner knows the vulnerability too!
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Posted 2008-August-03, 00:59
jtfanclub, on Aug 3 2008, 03:55 AM, said:
I am sympathetic to the pull due to the vulnerability.
Ehh, why??
Even vulnerable you need some TRICKS to make 3NT. Look at your hand - where do you find the tricks to make 3NT??? You've got ♠Kxx and an empty heart suit. What you DO have is defence. So defend. That's even what partner has told you to do!
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Posted 2008-August-03, 01:24
jtfanclub, on Aug 2 2008, 06:55 PM, said:
I am sympathetic to the pull due to the vulnerability.
If my partner pulled my double on this hand, I would launch him directly into the sun.
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Posted 2008-August-03, 01:37
Ive played a little uns vs. uns with Richard a while back. I wasnt sure this was worth a gf ♠ bid, I should go back and read uns vs. uns
It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.
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Posted 2008-August-03, 08:30
Hmmm, I play UvU, and this hand still feels like a bit if a 'tweener...
X for penalty with ♣AKxx?
GF with ♠s, considering the utter lack of support for P's ♥s and, indeed, less than stellar suit?
I'll have to concur with the other posters, South's doubles are OK, North should trust and pass 3♣X. Not convinced we're beating it by 2 though, and we might be missing a game, so I'm not really sure, as usual.
X for penalty with ♣AKxx?
GF with ♠s, considering the utter lack of support for P's ♥s and, indeed, less than stellar suit?
I'll have to concur with the other posters, South's doubles are OK, North should trust and pass 3♣X. Not convinced we're beating it by 2 though, and we might be missing a game, so I'm not really sure, as usual.
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Posted 2008-August-03, 08:31
All,
Please forget about spades! South has 4 cards in both minors, a void in partners suit, and AK A. His hand is screaming defense. It is likely he can make nothing on offense, and likely he will get a telephone number on defense.
Please forget about spades! South has 4 cards in both minors, a void in partners suit, and AK A. His hand is screaming defense. It is likely he can make nothing on offense, and likely he will get a telephone number on defense.
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Posted 2008-August-03, 08:33
rogerclee, on Aug 3 2008, 02:24 AM, said:
jtfanclub, on Aug 2 2008, 06:55 PM, said:
I am sympathetic to the pull due to the vulnerability.
If my partner pulled my double on this hand, I would launch him directly into the sun.
You mean you would feel insulted if partner decided to pull our penalty double when he had Hx of trumps, KQT of their side suit, and an ace and a king, with no extra shape at all?????????? You mean that would be bad bridge?!
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Posted 2008-August-04, 22:06
jillybean2, on Aug 3 2008, 01:37 AM, said:
Ive played a little uns vs. uns with Richard a while back. I wasnt sure this was worth a gf ♠ bid, I should go back and read uns vs. uns
I understand you were South, you bid your hand perfectly.
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Posted 2008-August-05, 06:46
Perfectly bid until North decided to bid 3 NT. That is a craaaazy bid. I completely agree with the launch partner into the sun comment.
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Posted 2008-August-05, 11:35
rogerclee, on Aug 3 2008, 02:24 AM, said:
jtfanclub, on Aug 2 2008, 06:55 PM, said:
I am sympathetic to the pull due to the vulnerability.
If my partner pulled my double on this hand, I would launch him directly into the sun.
We agree
pulling is such masterminding and displays complete lack of partnership confidence.
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