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Pas , 4NT..?

#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2008-August-04, 17:12

Scoring: MP

P-(3H)-P-(4H)
p-(p)-??
- -
Opps are no strong bidders. I passed first..you never know that 3H is passed out.
You bid 4NT now at this vulnerability?
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Posted 2008-August-05, 08:47

No. Not at this vulnerability.

Besides, it's very possible that your partner's sitting there with 4 hearts and can beat it even without the AK of diamonds.
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Posted 2008-August-05, 10:56

Hand seems too weak for a 4NT even in balancing seat.
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Posted 2008-August-05, 12:58

It would be crazy to bid 4NT at these colors imo. Partner is a passed hand and would need a perfecto just to go -200.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-August-05, 14:57

I think if you are going to take a call, double will work better than 4N.

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Is the word "pass" not in your vocabulary?
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Posted 2008-August-05, 15:43

#1 Pass over 3H is correct, you are red / they are
green, maybe the actual oppoenents will let you
play without a X, but I doubt a lot will
#2 Now pass as well, make it green vs. red and we
can talk about 4NT now, since partner is a passed
hand, and since green vs. red you can go -3, 4NT
becomes an option.

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Marlowe
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Posted 2008-August-05, 15:53

All kinds of great things can happen if don't pass.

1) Opponents may think we have some incredible shape and compete unnecessarily a level too high.
2) Opponents may not understand the concept of "vulnerability" and bid on.
3) Opponents may laugh so hard when we go for 1700 that they lose concentration on the next two boards.
4) This may be a great way to get rid of partner who keeps insisting on playing with us.
5) We can try out the great excuse "I had two of my spades mixed in with my clubs and I thought I was 1=0=5=7."
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Posted 2008-August-06, 03:31

Echognome, on Aug 5 2008, 11:53 PM, said:

All kinds of great things can happen if don't pass.

1) Opponents may think we have some incredible shape and compete unnecessarily a level too high.

That was kind of insurance I took with my 4NT bid. These Opps will not always decide correctly after it.

Scoring: MP

p-(3H)-P-(4H)
p-(p)-4NT-(DBL)
5C-(P)-P-(5H)

LHO had a 6=3=2=2 with good spades. 5H was down 1 and 5C would also have been down 1.
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