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think this is true (or even possible)?
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Posted 2008-August-03, 16:08
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Posted 2008-August-03, 20:07
Oh yeah, there's already a more powerful car on the road, or at least I think it made the road now.
http://www.teslamotors.com/
Only problem with it, as far as *I* am concerned, is that in order to make it capable of going over 120 mph they had to put in a two-speed transmission instead of a straight variable 1. Unless you're going to race the thing, why wait a year, have an iffy transmission, and God knows how much extra cost so it can go faster than 120? Cripes.
Oh well, when they have sedan model, it'll probably just use the normal one-speed. In the meanwhile, it's truly an awesome vehicle. What I don't get is, John McCain said that we should offer $300 million dollars for the battery technology that could power a car. Here we have a car that goes over 200 miles per charge, while getting acceleration and handling that most street racers would envy. How much more battery do we need?
Edit: Dayum. It has a "valet mode" to keep the speed down and limit the range, so the guy you toss the key to can't take out for a spin. Nice. Requires a PIN to get out of it.
It's $120,000 or so loaded, but that's comparable to the Ferrari types that can the incredible driving this car should have. Can't wait for the sedan model.
http://www.teslamotors.com/
Only problem with it, as far as *I* am concerned, is that in order to make it capable of going over 120 mph they had to put in a two-speed transmission instead of a straight variable 1. Unless you're going to race the thing, why wait a year, have an iffy transmission, and God knows how much extra cost so it can go faster than 120? Cripes.
Oh well, when they have sedan model, it'll probably just use the normal one-speed. In the meanwhile, it's truly an awesome vehicle. What I don't get is, John McCain said that we should offer $300 million dollars for the battery technology that could power a car. Here we have a car that goes over 200 miles per charge, while getting acceleration and handling that most street racers would envy. How much more battery do we need?
Edit: Dayum. It has a "valet mode" to keep the speed down and limit the range, so the guy you toss the key to can't take out for a spin. Nice. Requires a PIN to get out of it.
It's $120,000 or so loaded, but that's comparable to the Ferrari types that can the incredible driving this car should have. Can't wait for the sedan model.
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Posted 2008-August-04, 06:02
That's possible, sure! What bugs me about this idea that you cannot cheat the laws of physics. The energy for the car has to come from somewhere. Which in case of the battery powered car means power plants. And almost all power plants use... what again? Ah right, fossil fuels (except in France and Iceland).
Another question: Compared to cars that run on petrol, what is the range and the recharging capacity? What if I want to drive this car from Holland to Spain? Do I have to make 3 stops for the night for the car to recharge?
The real solution is to make sure that power plants use less fossil fuels.
Another question: Compared to cars that run on petrol, what is the range and the recharging capacity? What if I want to drive this car from Holland to Spain? Do I have to make 3 stops for the night for the car to recharge?
The real solution is to make sure that power plants use less fossil fuels.
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Posted 2008-August-04, 08:11
Gerben42, on Aug 4 2008, 07:02 AM, said:
Compared to cars that run on petrol, what is the range and the recharging capacity?
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...these give the car a 300-km [186-mile] range — on just a 10-minute charge.
IMO, you are 100% correct that our focus must be on building power plants that do not emit greenhouse gasses.
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Posted 2008-August-04, 10:17
I'm not sure if it's true, but I'm absolutely convinced it's possible.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2008-August-04, 11:43
PassedOut, on Aug 4 2008, 09:11 AM, said:
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...these give the car a 300-km [186-mile] range — on just a 10-minute charge.
IMO, you are 100% correct that our focus must be on building power plants that do not emit greenhouse gasses.
Wow. I have no idea how much energy it takes to move a car 300 kilometers, but if it's 120W and 10 minutes, I bet that's some serious current....
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.
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Posted 2008-August-04, 12:22
vuroth, on Aug 4 2008, 12:43 PM, said:
Wow. I have no idea how much energy it takes to move a car 300 kilometers, but if it's 120W and 10 minutes, I bet that's some serious current....
It's a trick. They'll either pull from multiple outlets in a 'fast charger' that pulls 80A or so or there'll be a quick charger that you keep in your garage...the charger takes 6 hours to charge up but it'll then transfer the power to your car battery in 10 minutes.
You are not driving 20 miles on the power it takes to toast an English Muffin!
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