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#1 User is offline   pclayton 

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Posted 2008-July-24, 10:53

You play in 6:
LHO passes as dealer. Pard opens 2 clubs, 2 diamonds by you and LHO now comes in with 4 clubs. Pard doubles and raises 4S to 6. LHO leads the QH.


You win the A. Are there any distributions that will let this make? Hint: Look at the bidding.
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Posted 2008-July-24, 11:27

If LHO has the singleton A and no more than 2, I can make.

I can also make if are 7-3-2-1 around the table and singleton heart has the A, but this does not align with the bidding.

That's all I see right now.
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2008-July-24, 17:33

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If LHO has the singleton A and no more than 2, I can make.


I am not going to spoil the thread by posting my solution, but I am interested in how one makes the contract on this layout.. if lho ruffs the 3rd diamond (or an earlier one) he plays another heart and down we go.
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Posted 2008-July-24, 17:46

If the two missing trump are in the same hand as 4 (or even 3) then you are fine,but it would be a bit hair raising to play 3 rounds of before touching the trump.
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Posted 2008-July-24, 17:54

onoway, on Jul 24 2008, 03:46 PM, said:

If the two missing trump are in the same hand as 4 (or even 3)  then you are fine,but it would be a bit hair raising to play 3 rounds of  before touching the trump.

Hair-raising is going back to your home table after going bait in a cold slam.

LHO needs to be 0=4=2=7 or 0=5=2=6. Not at all unlikely on the bidding - he passed and then preempted, remember?

This came home. My opponent said, "YOU ARE VERY LUCKY".

We beat them by 50.

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If the two missing trump are in the same hand as 4 (or even 3)


3 isn't good enough. They trump your 4th diamond with a baby and you are SOL.
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Posted 2008-July-25, 03:44

Hi Phil,

Don't understand why LHO must be void in spades? why can they divide 1-1?

LHO could also be 1-3-2-7...

I have two loser a and the one I will never get rid of A.

So I only see two possibilities of losing the loser in the 4th or in a .

I also have to think, I guess if the Q isn't a singleton and if the trump don't break 1-1 I will maybe be giving a ruff...

I will do the folowing before touching trump...

Come to my hand in a Diamond low to the Q..., lead the Q, if LHO has KJ we will raise with the K and I will have to take the ace, but maybe he ducks, and I can discard on my A.

If not I will try for the 1-1 break it's 52%, and discard on the 4

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Posted 2008-July-25, 08:12

mikeh, on Jul 24 2008, 06:33 PM, said:

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If LHO has the singleton A and no more than 2, I can make.


I am not going to spoil the thread by posting my solution, but I am interested in how one makes the contract on this layout.. if lho ruffs the 3rd diamond (or an earlier one) he plays another heart and down we go.

Yeah, what I posted is definitely wrong.

The play is to run all 4 diamonds, and hope they stick. As Phil said, you make if LHO has 2- diamonds and no trump.

I was thinking that you ALSO could make if LHO had 3 diamonds also the singleton ace of trump, but you can't both overruff the 8 of trump from RHO and discard your heart loser. (This would work if diamonds were 3-4+, so let's call it another counting error on my part....)

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