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#1 User is offline   cherdano 

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Posted 2008-July-21, 23:33

Red vs white, matchpoints, against weakish opponents.
You are dealer and pick up
♠ xx ♥AKJx ♦T9xx ♣Kxx. You decide to pass as dealer (it is close in your style) and the bidding goes
P (1S) P P
X (P) 2D (2S)
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Do you take another bid?
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Posted 2008-July-22, 00:36

Yes I would if sure the opp in 8 card fit.......not 100% sure so I pass.
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Posted 2008-July-22, 01:47

No. I have given a reasonable description of my hand, whereas I know very little about partner's hand. Apart from the fact that I have four diamonds rather than three, there is nothing about my hand that suggests playing in 3♦ - no singleton spade, no high cards in diamonds, no offensively-oriented side suit. What I do have is useful defensive cards that declarer won't be able to finesse easily, since dummy won't have many entries.

If partner passes this out, it won't surprise me at all to find that both 2♠ and 3♦ are one down.
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Posted 2008-July-22, 02:24

Why not leave the decision to partner?
BTW, if partner doubled at balancing seat, what kind of hand did he has?
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Posted 2008-July-22, 04:38

3♦.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2008-July-22, 04:59

3♦ now, after the antifield pass first time.
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Posted 2008-July-22, 05:00

Pass, partner is still there.

As it is, I dont know who has max., opener,
reponder or partner, partner on the other
hand did hear me, although he may give me
a slightly weaker hand and knows his hand.

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Posted 2008-July-22, 05:02

Edmunte1, on Jul 22 2008, 05:59 AM, said:

<snip> ..., after the antifield pass first time.

Antifield?

I would say opening is antifield.

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Posted 2008-July-22, 05:39

IMO, bidding 3♦ now is a poor substitute for opening 1♦. Stand by your decision.
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Posted 2008-July-22, 07:16

Clear pass. You have nothing else to say.
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Posted 2008-July-22, 09:16

Pass.

I have one more diamond than I promised, but I have two spades where I might have one or zero. Besides, partner knows my hand way better than I know his. Even if all this didn't make it clear, on top of it all, we're red!
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Posted 2008-July-22, 09:24

Pass
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Posted 2008-July-22, 11:43

3♦.

LHO opened 1♠ and it went pass, pass back to you. RHO is weak. Over your double, LHO passed. LHO does not have a great hand, so partner has the balance of power - probably close to an opening bid himself.

Partner bid 2♦ - it is matchpoints, so he would bid 1NT with any good excuse. He does not jump because you could be considerably weaker for your balancing double.

I do not want to defend 2♠ on this hand. It could be right to pass, but bidding looks better to me. Partner will not expect quite this good a hand for your balance, so he may choose to pass out 2♠ at this vulnerability. +110 is better than +100 (2Sx down one or 2S down 2). Bidding is only wrong when both sides go down, or your side goes down 200 (doubled or not), and I don't expect to be -200 in 3♦ on this auction.
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Posted 2008-July-22, 13:18

mike777, on Jul 22 2008, 12:36 AM, said:

Yes I would if sure the opp in 8 card fit.......not 100% sure so I pass.

At the table, I was 100% sure opponents were in an 8 card fit. (RHO probably passed because he didn't have 6 hcp.)
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Posted 2008-July-22, 14:01

It is better to open aggressively than to balance and then over-compete because we could have opened. The delayed approach usually helps the opps make the best decision for their side.

We chose to pass: a reasonable decision.. I would have passed as well, unless playing weak 1N (which I like precisely because I get to open, guilt-free). Having decided that discretion was the better part of valour on this hand, have I learned enough to change my mind?

I don't think so. Bidding 3♦ is a statement that my hand is now worth an opening bid, and it really hasn't gone up that much.. make it a 10-11 count 1=4=5=3, and that would be a 3♦ call.

I recognize that defending 2♠ may turn out badly, but partner is still there and knows of my short spades... give him a decent 3=2=4=4 or 3=2=5=3 and he may well bid again. If he has Art's possible near-opening (and I agree that he might) I don't expect him to go quietly
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Posted 2008-July-22, 14:12

Bidding sure feels right to me.

What's lefty up to? Was he trying to take a piece out of whatever my partner bid or is he just a better than min?

Tiebreaker, I'm playing with a good partner in the LM pairs and he knows just as well as I do that defending here could be really bad.

I pass.
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Posted 2008-July-22, 22:28

This is fate. Spades is higher than Diamonds. Leave the decision to my partner
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