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The point of this post is to see what people bid after this start. Obviously the first pass was silly so feel free not to mention that when responding.
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Posted 2008-July-21, 11:10
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Posted 2008-July-21, 16:37
I double for takeout, suggesting 5-5 in the majors.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-July-22, 11:04
Double only suggests 4432 IMHO. P could have an 18-19 balanced so 4♥ must have some play, but he could also be 3154 or 4153. I suppose some of my p's would be crazy enough to understand 3♣ so that's what I bid. (As usual I voted for the monkey because I misread the auction).
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Posted 2008-July-22, 11:15
helene_t, on Jul 22 2008, 06:04 PM, said:
P could have an 18-19 balanced so 4♥ must have some play, but he could also be 3154 or 4153.
That seems an optimistic assessment. Can't he be 2164, 2155 or 1165?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-July-22, 20:06
The first pass was silly? I don't think so with a 1 count. If you bid 1H I guess you would be delighted to hear 3C or 3C, yes?
I bid 2H now. A double is terrrible, because that is where it might well be played.
I bid 2H now. A double is terrrible, because that is where it might well be played.
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Posted 2008-July-22, 20:22
IMPs, right? Just call me Mr. Monkey.
I have 1 hcp. Either somebody's an idiot or partner's hoping I'll X because he's sitting there with 5-5 in the minors and an 18 count.
I'm not calling my P an idiot, so I'm not bidding in case he forgot to X. If one of the opponents is an idiot, then I'm very happy to let them play in 2♣. And if my partner's hoping to play 2♣ doubled...well, I think he's hoping for a little bit more from me, but I have no interest in playing in a misfit when they can do the same!
I'm sorry, but I see no advantage to bidding here. Just how much does partner need to double?!
I have 1 hcp. Either somebody's an idiot or partner's hoping I'll X because he's sitting there with 5-5 in the minors and an 18 count.
I'm not calling my P an idiot, so I'm not bidding in case he forgot to X. If one of the opponents is an idiot, then I'm very happy to let them play in 2♣. And if my partner's hoping to play 2♣ doubled...well, I think he's hoping for a little bit more from me, but I have no interest in playing in a misfit when they can do the same!
I'm sorry, but I see no advantage to bidding here. Just how much does partner need to double?!
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Posted 2008-July-22, 22:45
I double for takeout, suggesting both majors. Having passed originally I'd expect this to show at least 54/45.
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Posted 2008-July-22, 23:55
For me 2H here suggest 6H & 4S and probably without 3D
Any hand where im willing to bid 2H over 2C instead of making a X is a hand where i would have bid 1H or 2H on the first round.
Any hand where im willing to bid 2H over 2C instead of making a X is a hand where i would have bid 1H or 2H on the first round.
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For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
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Posted 2008-July-23, 02:31
I double for takeout.
I would have responded, but I don't hate the initial pass enough to abstain.
Double will work well if we have a decent major suit fit, or if partner passes 2♣X. He heard us pass his opening bid, and will realize we are lacking in the HCP department.
The most dangerous continuations after double seem to me to be when partner assumes a diamond fit, and bids too many diamonds in a competitive auction. But, because he did not rebid 2♦, and because LHO is a passed hand, this danger is (hopefully) not too great.
I would have responded, but I don't hate the initial pass enough to abstain.
Double will work well if we have a decent major suit fit, or if partner passes 2♣X. He heard us pass his opening bid, and will realize we are lacking in the HCP department.
The most dangerous continuations after double seem to me to be when partner assumes a diamond fit, and bids too many diamonds in a competitive auction. But, because he did not rebid 2♦, and because LHO is a passed hand, this danger is (hopefully) not too great.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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