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Partner bids an unusual 2NT over West's 1♠ opening. Crikey!
At some tables East passed. What is your call over 2NT with a passing East?
At our table, East doubles. What is your gameplan now?
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Posted 2008-July-19, 12:41
Partner bids an unusual 2NT over West's 1♠ opening. Crikey!
At some tables East passed. What is your call over 2NT with a passing East?
At our table, East doubles. What is your gameplan now?
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Posted 2008-July-19, 13:45
If RHO doubles I pass. Let pard select the better trump suit. And he gets to play it too. 
If RHO passes, I estimate 2NT will be down around 4 tricks, undoubled.
In a suit contract, maybe down 2 doubled?
I pass. If they X then pard can select the better minor.
If RHO passes, I estimate 2NT will be down around 4 tricks, undoubled.
In a suit contract, maybe down 2 doubled?
I pass. If they X then pard can select the better minor.
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Posted 2008-July-19, 14:20
Just this week I had this shape hit dummy (except long in both minors) after I had overcalled 4♠ with 7411 shape (both majors). The opponents make nothing. We went -200 NV, for a top. Not doubled.
Moral?
Game plan is to bid 3♣ confidently. I can hope for no double, and I want them to have space (leave them a cue of 3♦ in case they want it). Plus, 5-6 is more likely than 6-5, IMO.
Moral?
Game plan is to bid 3♣ confidently. I can hope for no double, and I want them to have space (leave them a cue of 3♦ in case they want it). Plus, 5-6 is more likely than 6-5, IMO.
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Posted 2008-July-19, 14:57
Pass after RHO's double, obviously.
If RHO passes, I bid 3♣, because it's my better suit. How come so many of your problems seem to hint at breaching partnership discipline?
If RHO passes, I bid 3♣, because it's my better suit. How come so many of your problems seem to hint at breaching partnership discipline?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-July-20, 12:46
Add me to the pass/pass-ers.
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Posted 2008-July-21, 01:28
After a pass - 3C
After the X, xx showing no preference for either minor. Pass would be to play.
After the X, xx showing no preference for either minor. Pass would be to play.
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Posted 2008-July-21, 12:55
3♣/pass, seems obvious
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Posted 2008-July-21, 23:40
After a double i XX to suggest H lenght. Parter can be 02(65) or 1255
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Posted 2008-July-22, 00:03
gnasher, on Jul 19 2008, 02:57 PM, said:
Pass after RHO's double, obviously.
If RHO passes, I bid 3♣, because it's my better suit. How come so many of your problems seem to hint at breaching partnership discipline?
If RHO passes, I bid 3♣, because it's my better suit. How come so many of your problems seem to hint at breaching partnership discipline?
Why is a pass breaching partnership discipline? You just make the bid that maximizes your expected score opposite partner's range of hands, and especially at MPs (where we don't have to worry about the missed games so much) I think this is a pass here.
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Posted 2008-July-22, 02:06
cherdano, on Jul 22 2008, 07:03 AM, said:
Why is a pass breaching partnership discipline? You just make the bid that maximizes your expected score opposite partner's range of hands, and especially at MPs (where we don't have to worry about the missed games so much) I think this is a pass here.
"Breach partnership dispiline" isn't synonymous with "make the wrong bid".
Pass is a breach of discipline in that it's not doing what partner asked you to. This problem did appear at the same time as the one where we were asked whether we'd show a four-card major in response to Stayman.
Occasionally doing something non-systemic might be OK, but it's unwise to do it often, because the experience may cloud partner's judgement in the future when he has, for example, a game-going minor two-suiter over an opposing opening, or a 4144 which isn't quite strong enough to show its shape facing a 1NT opening.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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