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Explanation of bidding

#41 User is offline   ArtK78 

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Posted 2008-July-15, 13:26

jtfanclub, on Jul 15 2008, 02:20 PM, said:

Cascade, on Jul 14 2008, 07:39 PM, said:

However I am not convinced that the opponents were damaged.  It seems they understood Kokish and they opening post clearly stated that the bid (2) was explained as being artificial.

Because if you read the links I put in my post, most people seem to agree that when playing Kokish.

2-2-2-2-2NT
is balanced, and

2-2-2-2-anything else
shows hearts

The 3NT rebid was alerted as showing 26-27 balanced. So the opponents were under no misconception about my showing or not showing hearts on the auction.

It is certainly not unreasonable at matchpoints to lead from T98xx of spades rather than K9xxx of hearts into a hand advertised as 26-27 HCP when neither major has been bid naturally.

In my first post, I said 24-26. That was an error.
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Posted 2008-July-15, 13:27

ArtK78, on Jul 15 2008, 02:26 PM, said:

The 3NT rebid was alerted as showing 26-27 balanced. So the opponents were under no misconception about my showing or not showing hearts on the auction.

I apologize, I missed that completely.

I retract all earlier statements, and I would not adjust.
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Posted 2008-July-16, 00:40

Jlall, on Jul 15 2008, 01:41 AM, said:

ArtK78, on Jul 14 2008, 04:22 PM, said:

Jlall, on Jul 14 2008, 03:44 PM, said:

I would adjust against you.

You would probably do that regardless of what the facts were.

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Nope, I just really think if you are ever going to play something artificial you should explain it in a clear and concise way. I think you failed to do that, and because of that your LHO did not lead a heart.

Well, he DID explain his 3NT rebid as 26-27 balanced.

How on earth could anyone adjust against him???

Either the TD didn't get what explanations were given, or the TD just wasn't up to the task of ruling. Luckily, there was no score adjustment.

As to the adjustment on the last board, this is hopeless.
The TD should know that it was he, not the players who was at fault for spending playing time. Secondly, he should have checked, and found out that it was the other pair who had used too much time on the previous board (assuming this is correct, of course).
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Posted 2008-July-16, 00:42

Cascade, on Jul 15 2008, 02:39 AM, said:

Jlall, on Jul 15 2008, 11:41 AM, said:

ArtK78, on Jul 14 2008, 04:22 PM, said:

Jlall, on Jul 14 2008, 03:44 PM, said:

I would adjust against you.

You would probably do that regardless of what the facts were.

B)

Nope, I just really think if you are ever going to play something artificial you should explain it in a clear and concise way. I think you failed to do that, and because of that your LHO did not lead a heart.

I agree a clearer explanation would have been better.

Having explained his 3NT rebid as 26-27 balanced, i fail to see how the explanation could have been better - in fact it was spot on!

I agree that the alert/explanation of 2 was clumsy.
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