Hi Wayne,
I think your idea: What hands do not make 6 Diamond which makes 3 NT is not as bad as Roger wrote.
But as Frances pointed out, there are too many hands, where 6 Diamond fails, so your jump was not good. Whenever you think that your hand improved so much in the bidding that you should make another move here, try 4 Diamond.
But if you do so, accept that the best player at this Forum (Fred) and anybody else agrees that this is a very strong violation of partnership bidding.
Whenever you have ideas like this, be sure that you have a very understanding partner, because he shares the tops and zeros based on your wild strikes.
There are bidding sequences where it is correct to reaevaluate the hand during the bidding. This one is none of them.
bidding comments please
#21
Posted 2008-July-15, 07:32
Kind Regards
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
Roland
Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
#22
Posted 2008-July-15, 07:43
After the first few posts in this thread, I thought for sure that OP was going to explain that this was his opponents' auction and he was wondering if they might have had a wire on the hand. In my opinion, just more evidence that strange bidding is seldom the result of illicit behavior.
#23
Posted 2008-July-15, 11:09
This has nothing to do with judgement.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
- hrothgar
- hrothgar
#24
Posted 2008-July-18, 00:01
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On a more real note I think that reversing is horrible with the north hand, and bidding 3N with the south hand is horrible. So basically lol. How can 3N get support with the south hand, there is no heart stopper. Sure maybe south is not thinking SLAM but I would certainly be thinking, hey maybe we belong in 5D on this hand since I have no heart stopper, no diamond filler, prime cards, and only 1 stopper in clubs.
1D-----1S
2D-----3C
3H
3H here for me show half a stopper.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
#25
Posted 2008-July-19, 10:54
sceptic, on Jul 14 2008, 11:57 AM, said:
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sceptic you are hopeless. I am tired of these pointless posts you make all the time.
Thanks for comment and don't read em if you don't like em
Wayne: You deserve some apologies.
Every person who chooses to post or ask a question in this forum has the right to do so. And, everyone else has the right to read it or to not read it, to respond or to not respond. No one, however, has the right to insult any other member of this forum! Do that on BBO and it's considered to be Abuse.
What might have seemed like a pointless question or posting to some likely seemed important to the poster (sceptic) at the time, and he did nothing more than seek some advice. If you don't have anything helpful or constructive to say ("if you can't say something nice"), then don't say anything.
DHL
"That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!"
#26
Posted 2008-July-26, 06:33
Sorry I have come in late.
Wayne: Since I first started reading this forum a few years ago, you have stood out in provoking interesting discussion. It is particularly refreshing that you are willing to expose your mistakes, thus providing a valuable service in facilitating discussions on common bridge errors. Indeed I believe your posts provide enough material for a very useful book for beginners and intermediates. Detractors can gtfo. Keep posting your bridge hands Wayne.
Wayne: Since I first started reading this forum a few years ago, you have stood out in provoking interesting discussion. It is particularly refreshing that you are willing to expose your mistakes, thus providing a valuable service in facilitating discussions on common bridge errors. Indeed I believe your posts provide enough material for a very useful book for beginners and intermediates. Detractors can gtfo. Keep posting your bridge hands Wayne.
May 2003: Mission accomplished
Oct 2006: Mission impossible
Soon: Mission illegal
Oct 2006: Mission impossible
Soon: Mission illegal
#27
Posted 2008-July-26, 08:18
While Fred's advice: is, obviously, excellent, this auction highlights a weakness of standard "no-frills" bidding. Yes, opener has limited his hand, but it still covers a wide range; and yes, responder has signed off, but bear in mind that he has no natural forcing bid to make, and his bid too covers quite a wide range.
If both hands are towards the top of their repsective ranges and not too ill-fitting then slam will be a good proposition. Even worse, if partner is in the habit of responding 1♠ with a weak suit, then 3NT might be off with slam a lay down. Opener should be allowed to bid on with slam interested hands like this one. Jumping to slam is clearly a jump into the unknown, but one try, willing to subside in 4NT if partner doesn't co-operate looks to me like it will gain more often than it will lose.
fred said:
You have limited your hand and your partner has signed off. You should Pass without looking at your hand.
If both hands are towards the top of their repsective ranges and not too ill-fitting then slam will be a good proposition. Even worse, if partner is in the habit of responding 1♠ with a weak suit, then 3NT might be off with slam a lay down. Opener should be allowed to bid on with slam interested hands like this one. Jumping to slam is clearly a jump into the unknown, but one try, willing to subside in 4NT if partner doesn't co-operate looks to me like it will gain more often than it will lose.
#28
Posted 2008-July-26, 12:22
Reversing (i.e. 1d-1s/2h..) is 100% correct on this hand and is the only real way to get to a great slam.
Bill
Bill
#29
Posted 2008-July-27, 09:49
Ditto Wacko's comments.
Who said this: "A true friend stabs you in the front"?
a) Dale Carnegie
Dan Quayle
c) Marcus Junius Brutus
d) Oscar Wilde
e) All my bridge partners say this. The true friends apologize later.
Who said this: "A true friend stabs you in the front"?
a) Dale Carnegie
c) Marcus Junius Brutus
d) Oscar Wilde
e) All my bridge partners say this. The true friends apologize later.
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