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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2008-July-07, 19:45

xx
AKTxxx
AKx
Jx

1♠-p-1NT-2♥
2♠-p-p-?

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Posted 2008-July-07, 19:47

Pass.

Even if partner is a noob, I prefer to make the normal bid.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-July-07, 19:51

I would pass.
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Posted 2008-July-07, 19:56

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Posted 2008-July-08, 10:34

I think I would bid 3H at MP's.
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Posted 2008-July-08, 10:44

Pass. Spades outrank hearts.

I'll explain that later.
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Posted 2008-July-08, 22:04

Pass.
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Posted 2008-July-08, 22:14

Wow, that's tempting. Don't need much to make it.

I'm vulnerable, huh?

Stupid vulnerability.
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Posted 2008-July-09, 01:21

-200 is a terrible mp score.
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Posted 2008-July-09, 04:39

Pass, though maybe I wouldn't at the table.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2008-July-09, 06:29

Pass, what can I do if partner has not acted, they have an eye on the colors also. Delighted I'm getting a H lead.
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Posted 2008-July-09, 19:31

Pass.
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Posted 2008-July-10, 15:54

benlessard, on Jul 9 2008, 09:21 AM, said:

-200 is a terrible mp score.

Yes. Maybe scoring (IMP's vs MP's) should not make a difference to bid this hand?
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Posted 2008-July-10, 16:37

kgr, on Jul 10 2008, 04:54 PM, said:

benlessard, on Jul 9 2008, 09:21 AM, said:

-200 is a terrible mp score.

Yes. Maybe scoring (IMP's vs MP's) should not make a difference to bid this hand?

I think it should make a big difference on this hand.

Partner could still have a hand like:

QTxx
xx
QTx
ATxx

What's he supposed to do, bid 2NT when you might have just been bidding a lead director? No thanks. When you show strength now, he can bid 3NT, and probably make it. That scoring bonus looms large here.

Or he could even have a decent raise. Wanna raise to 3 with 4 spades, 3 hearts, and an 8 count? Not if you're partnering with somebody who likes to throw bids in.

So I think in IMPs, the advantages where partner raises to game when he realizes you're serious are, um, tempting. OK, not big enough, but they're there. I suspect that when I bid again in IMPs, I'll lose 3 IMPs on the median. That's not good, but it's not turning as 50% into a 0 either.

I'm much more tempted in IMPs. Just not quite tempted enough.
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