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#1 User is offline   jocdelevat 

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Posted 2008-July-04, 20:32


Dealer: North
Vul: NS
Scoring: IMP
♠ AQJ95
♥ K965
♦
♣ AT32


West North East South

 -     1♥    3♦    ? 
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Posted 2008-July-04, 20:52

4♦ - 4♠/5♣/5♦ next
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Posted 2008-July-04, 21:55

X, 5♦
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Posted 2008-July-05, 05:23

On this round there are two sensible options

i) bid 4D (a good 4H bid) and then bid on over partner's 4H sign-off
ii) bid 5D at once, showing a huge hand for hearts and a diamond void, and respect partner's 5H sign-off

In (sad) practical fact, if you do bid 5D you probably have to respect 5H because partner may well bid it slowly when you are making slam.

I think either is a perfectly good choice. I would probably go with (i) because of the huge upside when partner doesn't sign off but wouldn't quarrel with (ii)
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Posted 2008-July-05, 05:31

Probably start with 4♦ just to tell partner about the fit, but pretty much planning on forcing to slam regardless.

Double is bad here, it has no upside if partner bids, and if partner passes it is unlikely that defending 3♦X is best for our side.
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Posted 2008-July-05, 10:09


Scoring: IMP


West North East South

 -     1♥    3♦    6♥
 7♦    Dbl   Pass  Pass
 Pass  


this was the full hand. I bid 6h after 3d and opps was down 5 in 7d which was not enough because we lost 4.4 imps. I was curios how some tables found it the 7h.
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Posted 2008-July-05, 11:33

jocdelevat, on Jul 5 2008, 11:09 AM, said:

this was the full hand. I bid 6h after 3d and opps was down 5 in 7d which was not enough because we lost 4.4 imps. I was curios how some tables found it the 7h.

i don't think 7H is a particularly good contract -- it just happens to make.
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Posted 2008-July-05, 14:10

wrong thread, sorry.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-July-07, 09:45

I like 4♦/4♠.

6♥, I think, is the right idea, but why give up on 7 so fast?
Still decidedly intermediate - don't take my guesses as authoritative.

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Posted 2008-July-07, 18:50

vuroth, on Jul 7 2008, 03:45 PM, said:

I like 4♦/4♠.

6♥, I think, is the right idea, but why give up on 7 so fast?

Yes.

Nobody has yet commented on East's woeful underbid of 3♦ with an eight card suit to KQJT at w/r vulnerability. I'd give it 5♦ myself. Even if you're the timid sort, you gotta go 4 surely?!
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