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You first hear RHO intervene with 4♠. What is your plan against a) strong opponents,
weak opponents?
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Posted 2008-June-30, 09:00
At IMPS and NIL with partner as the dealer who opens 3♥.
You hold:
You first hear RHO intervene with 4♠. What is your plan against a) strong opponents, weak opponents?
You hold:
You first hear RHO intervene with 4♠. What is your plan against a) strong opponents,
weak opponents?
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Posted 2008-June-30, 09:12
6H. Let them guess last.
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Posted 2008-June-30, 09:15
4NT.
Ask partner how many keycards he has.
Against weak opponents this might even work.
Perhaps against good opponents it is better not to give them a free double of 4NT to show values before raising spades. But we don't know how many spades they make. Maybe 7♠ is cold, maybe 4 or 5 is the limit.
I don't actually have any strong opinions here, any of Pass, 4NT, 5♦, 5♥, 6♥, 7♥ could work some of the time. Even a psychic 5♣.
Ask partner how many keycards he has.
Against weak opponents this might even work.
Perhaps against good opponents it is better not to give them a free double of 4NT to show values before raising spades. But we don't know how many spades they make. Maybe 7♠ is cold, maybe 4 or 5 is the limit.
I don't actually have any strong opinions here, any of Pass, 4NT, 5♦, 5♥, 6♥, 7♥ could work some of the time. Even a psychic 5♣.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-June-30, 10:16
I'm inclined to bid 7♥. The test for me is how great am I going to feel if I sell out to 6♠? Not very.
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Posted 2008-June-30, 10:33
My plan:
Step 1: Bid some number of hearts. (6 is my choice.)
Step 2: Blame partner if it turns out wrong.
Step 1: Bid some number of hearts. (6 is my choice.)
Step 2: Blame partner if it turns out wrong.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
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Posted 2008-June-30, 10:39
7♥ I think, but this may be dumb.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
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Posted 2008-June-30, 10:45
I would just bid 6♥. I have no problem with 7♥.
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Posted 2008-June-30, 11:21
I don't really see anything funny I can do with this hand.
Against strong opps I'd bid 6♥ and let it be.
Against weak opps I'd be tempted to bid a fit-showing 6♦ (if it shows a fit) because I'd imagine it'd make it harder for them to evaluate their hands than easier. I don't have a good reason for why I think that but I feel like it's true.
Against strong opps I'd bid 6♥ and let it be.
Against weak opps I'd be tempted to bid a fit-showing 6♦ (if it shows a fit) because I'd imagine it'd make it harder for them to evaluate their hands than easier. I don't have a good reason for why I think that but I feel like it's true.
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Posted 2008-June-30, 12:17
A partner of mine found an interesting tactic recently It is not exactly the same as this hand, but it bears some consideration.
Pass.
By bidding lots of hearts you may incite your opponents to bid more with the knowledge that they are playing with a 30 point deck.
Given that partner is not vul, he may not have the AK of hearts (or even 7 hearts) so that may not be a consideration. In the hand that my partner passed, I opened 3♥ at both vul and he held 5 to the AQ. He did not raise, and our opps did not bid slam. At the other table, my hand opened only 2 hearts (wimp) on KJTxxxx and got raised to 5♥ by my partner's hand. My teammates had no problem bidding the slam.
So, as I said, the vulnerability and the size of the heart fit are different, but it is worth considering whether you should be taking an active view or a more passive view on the hand.
Pass.
By bidding lots of hearts you may incite your opponents to bid more with the knowledge that they are playing with a 30 point deck.
Given that partner is not vul, he may not have the AK of hearts (or even 7 hearts) so that may not be a consideration. In the hand that my partner passed, I opened 3♥ at both vul and he held 5 to the AQ. He did not raise, and our opps did not bid slam. At the other table, my hand opened only 2 hearts (wimp) on KJTxxxx and got raised to 5♥ by my partner's hand. My teammates had no problem bidding the slam.
So, as I said, the vulnerability and the size of the heart fit are different, but it is worth considering whether you should be taking an active view or a more passive view on the hand.
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Posted 2008-June-30, 13:01
I'd bid 5♥, since I doubt they have forcing pass here, they will have a hard time to not play 5♠.
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Posted 2008-June-30, 13:25
Double!
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Posted 2008-June-30, 16:08
The_Hog, on Jun 30 2008, 04:12 PM, said:
6H. Let them guess last.
If they guess to bid 6♠, are you going to leave them there?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-June-30, 16:09
7♥
This is the kind of hand where it is easy to talk oneself into doing something tricky. Pass, and hope they don't know how to bid. Double or bid 4N and hope they don't recognize a baby psyche.
If I weren't going to bid 7♥, I'd bid 5♥, as the bid that is most likely to cause some confusion without at the same time egging them on. But I have a simple mind, and make a simple bid on what looks like a simple hand.
This is the kind of hand where it is easy to talk oneself into doing something tricky. Pass, and hope they don't know how to bid. Double or bid 4N and hope they don't recognize a baby psyche.
If I weren't going to bid 7♥, I'd bid 5♥, as the bid that is most likely to cause some confusion without at the same time egging them on. But I have a simple mind, and make a simple bid on what looks like a simple hand.
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Posted 2008-June-30, 20:26
gnasher, on Jul 1 2008, 05:08 AM, said:
The_Hog, on Jun 30 2008, 04:12 PM, said:
6H. Let them guess last.
If they guess to bid 6♠, are you going to leave them there?
No I won't bid again. Once I bid 6H thats it.
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Posted 2008-June-30, 20:41
Against weak opponents, I bid 5♥, so LHO cannot bid 4NT or 5♣, and makes a 5♠ bid ambiguous.
Against strong opps, I bid 7♥. If they bid 6♠ I was always going to bid 7♥ in any case, and this gives the most pressure on the opps.
Against strong opps, I bid 7♥. If they bid 6♠ I was always going to bid 7♥ in any case, and this gives the most pressure on the opps.
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Posted 2008-June-30, 22:59
The_Hog, on Jun 30 2008, 10:12 AM, said:
6H. Let them guess last.
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Posted 2008-July-01, 05:55
Keep in mind that baby psych bids are not necessarily intended as just baby psychs. Just as LHO may easily spot it, so much more will partner spot it if LHO makes an appropriate psychic-indicating call. Opener will then be poised to make a call that assists the discussion. For instance, perhaps Opener bids some level of diamonds to show a void. He cannot do that over 7♥. Sure, he might double 7♠. But, he might not get the chance if 7♥ gets doubled. Catch the diamond Ace wrong, and partner with a void, and even 6♠ may fail.
4NT serves the same purpose.
4NT serves the same purpose.
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Posted 2008-July-01, 08:17
I'm going to bid 6♦ and then if they bid 6♠, I'll sell out.
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Posted 2008-July-02, 21:52
andy_h, on Jun 30 2008, 10:00 AM, said:
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| Partner deals and opens 3♥. You first hear RHO intervene with 4♠. What is your plan against a) strong opponents, weak opponents? |
IMO 5♦ = 10, 6♦ = 9, 5♣ = 8. 6♣ = 7, _P = 6, 5♥ = 5, 6♥ = 4, 7♥ = 3. Other = 2.
But now I see Ken's _X, I give it at least 7
and I wish I'd thought of it
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