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#21 User is offline   blackshoe 

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Posted 2008-July-06, 23:31

There is Natural Precision, by a guy named Brown, iirc. Not a big book, pretty simple, basic Precision, nothing fancy.
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Posted 2008-July-08, 04:34

There's also the book from Henryk Mach '1/1 game-force' about Precision.
An introduction to a simple version of Precision
You can download the e-book from:

1/1 Game Force
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Posted 2008-July-08, 07:00

rory74, on Jul 8 2008, 05:34 AM, said:

There's also the book from Henryk Mach '1/1 game-force' about Precision.
An introduction to a simple version of Precision
You can download the e-book from:

1/1 Game Force

The book you refer to does omit a few things: it omits the 1C-1D response as including the 4441 8+ impossible negatives, has no systemic opening bid for a 4414 hand shape, and has the inferior 5+ clubs 2C opening. It also suggests 8+ responses to the 1D/1H/1S openings (it has been conclusively shown that the higher baseline for responding is losing bridge, and 6+ is better).

Other than these few points, it's a reasonable introduction.
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Posted 2008-July-08, 20:14

I learned Precision because 2/1 for me was (and still) not "logical" - it is how I made Life Master, it is how I grasped the game, and it is also how I finally (about darn time) I broke through and got my first Blue Ribbon qual in Reston, VA at the regional July 4th weekend. Got my share of Reds, but never a shiny blue one...

I will always be partial to Reese's Precision for it's the text I learned from, but these days, I think Precision Today and Rigal's Precision in the 90's are the standard bearers for codified forcing club methods. Once you grasp those, the sky is the limit - Danielson has a nice relay text, Jannerstein has some solid methods, and others with their own interpretation.

With regards to the 1C-1H being the 8-11, it is logical unless you're using the bid for other purposes; I see the merits of it. I am partial tho to either multiplexed transfer positives, or these days, 4 card major first answers.

Whatever floats your boat, learning Precision is going to help your bridge due to the ability to limit yourself, and bid to the limit faster, putting more pressure on your opps - and trust me, they will go wrong a lot!
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Posted 2008-July-09, 11:11

effervesce, on Jul 8 2008, 09:00 PM, said:

rory74, on Jul 8 2008, 05:34 AM, said:

There's also the book from Henryk Mach '1/1 game-force' about Precision.
An introduction to a simple version of Precision
You can download the e-book from:

1/1 Game Force

The book you refer to does omit a few things: it omits the 1C-1D response as including the 4441 8+ impossible negatives, has no systemic opening bid for a 4414 hand shape, and has the inferior 5+ clubs 2C opening. It also suggests 8+ responses to the 1D/1H/1S openings (it has been conclusively shown that the higher baseline for responding is losing bridge, and 6+ is better).

Other than these few points, it's a reasonable introduction.

Agreed. However, I don't really like the book, and I don't really know Precision. I would think it is of more use as a first book for beginners before they start on one of the more classical texts on Precision.

Don't really like the point count sections as well.
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Posted 2020-April-13, 12:00

I first played Precision 50 years ago and did well with it. Then I dropped out of serious play for 50 years, just started up again a couple of months ago. I'm hoping there is some software that I can practice Precision with, rather than annoy a partner when trying to learn. It appears to be the kind of system that a software could emulate easily. Does anyone here know of such a program, or somewhere online to learn?

Thanks in advance.

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Posted 2020-April-13, 21:13

http://www.q-plus.co.../overview_f.htm

Has a simple Precision version. It has been years since I used my copy, so I don't remember much.
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Posted 2020-April-16, 12:25

Thanks, It is up to Version 15, and claims to play a sophisticated Precision Club, as well as a simple version. Should be good for learning the system at least.

Does anyone else know of other options?

Thanks,
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Posted 2020-April-16, 12:54

View PostDBarbour, on 2020-April-16, 12:25, said:

Thanks, It is up to Version 15, and claims to play a sophisticated Precision Club, as well as a simple version. Should be good for learning the system at least.

Does anyone else know of other options?

Thanks,
David

You may try Jack Bridge. However the best is Bridge Baron (version 29 now). You can configure your Precision system to your liking.
Sadly, there is no way you can develop your own sequences, let’s say asking bids, for example.
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Posted 2020-April-17, 18:24

Standard Modern Precision by Dan Neil has an appendix or two about using BBO to practice the system.
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Posted 2024-February-06, 01:01

q-plus is bridge playing software that has both simplified and more complicated versions of Precision and I would recommend it. SwanGames.com is an on-line bridge playing platform similar to BBO. It's robots will play a simple form oF Precision (THEY COME FROM Q-PLUS).

I have found that Flash Cards are very useful in learning Precision. I created my own using a program called Anki.
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Posted 2024-February-06, 14:05

View PostDBarbour, on 2024-February-06, 01:01, said:

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7 posts on BBF and 2 of them are deep necros of this 2008 thread! :lol: :lol: :lol: Promoting a competitor of the site you are using is generally frowned upon. Whether or not BBF leave your post intact, I am snipping it for the response.
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Posted 2024-February-13, 08:45

View Postgeorgeac, on 2008-July-02, 03:26, said:

I am looking to learn precision. Does any one have any books they would reccomend or websites? Is there one general precision system that everyone would know? Thanks in advance.


I would tell you that you really need a dedicated partner. especially starting with Oliver C.'s system (which is what I started with). If you have that, then also consider Modified Italian Canape System. Precision 1D bid stinks because Opponent's can easily overcall.
You can't really implement either system well without a partner learning the system with you, in my opinion
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