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#1 User is offline   Simpleboi 

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Posted 2008-June-19, 20:46

Scoring: IMP

P-(3)-X-(5)
P-P-?

Agree with first X?

What do you bid now?
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Posted 2008-June-19, 20:52

Easy pass.
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Posted 2008-June-19, 22:21

100% agree with 1st X, and now I pass happily. Partner's a passed hand and has heard our t/o X. We have nothing more to describe.
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Posted 2008-June-19, 22:36

I agree with Andy, first x is also very clear.
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Posted 2008-June-20, 08:02

andy_h, on Jun 20 2008, 12:21 AM, said:

100% agree with 1st X, and now I pass happily. Partner's a passed hand and has heard our t/o X. We have nothing more to describe.

agree, wtp
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Posted 2008-June-20, 08:16

easy x for me
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Posted 2008-June-20, 08:39

Sambolino, on Jun 20 2008, 09:16 AM, said:

easy x for me

IMPs, them NV, I guess I don't see the point.
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Posted 2008-June-20, 08:40

#1 sure
#2 Pass

With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2008-June-20, 08:46

jtfanclub, on Jun 20 2008, 09:39 AM, said:

Sambolino, on Jun 20 2008, 09:16 AM, said:

easy x for me

IMPs, them NV, I guess I don't see the point.

aces, spaces... and then pard is in the terrible position after direct 5c
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Posted 2008-June-20, 10:44

Simpleboi, on Jun 19 2008, 09:46 PM, said:

Dealer: North
Vul: N/S
Scoring: IMP
AJ94
A9653
KQ42
 
P-(3)-X-(5)
P-P-?
Agree with first X?
What do you bid now?

IMO
  • Over 3, _X = 10, 3 = 5, _P = 2
  • Over 5 _X = 10, _P =5
Agree with Sambolino.
The message of the 2nd double is the same as the 1st, but extra values.
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Posted 2008-June-20, 11:42

nige1 said:

IMO
  • Over 3, _X = 10, 3 = 5, _P = 2

  • Over 5 _X = 10, _P =5
Agree with Sambolino.
The message of the 2nd double is the same as the 1st, but extra values.

dude...

You yourself give 2 for passing first time, yet suddenly you feel like you have extra values compared to your initial double? Are your points for real or are you deliberately trying to make them as random as integers between 0 and 10 can get?
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Posted 2008-June-20, 12:10

gwnn, on Jun 20 2008, 12:42 PM, said:

dude...

You yourself give 2 for passing first time, yet suddenly you feel like you have extra values compared to your initial double? Are your points for real or are you deliberately trying to make them as random as integers between 0 and 10 can get?

A previous post explains how and why you should rate bidding options: give marks to most of the actions that you consider might work. For example, pass is more likely to be right over 5 than over 3 :lol: In my fallible judgement, double is still the best choice in both contexts :(
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Posted 2008-June-20, 12:23

I would X, if partner bids something that must be good and if partner passes we should have a decent shot at beating them, sometimes 2.
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Posted 2008-June-27, 00:12

This is the whole hand..

Scoring: IMP

I was South, doubled the 1st time but passed 5..
Turns out that 5 and 5 cold for our side.. but even if we did not reach them.. we also let 5 go undoubled.. it went down 2..

Any comments? :P
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Posted 2008-June-27, 01:04

Simpleboi, on Jun 27 2008, 01:12 AM, said:

Any comments? :P

yeah... what's east doing preempting that hand...
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Posted 2008-June-27, 04:00

Simpleboi, on Jun 27 2008, 01:12 AM, said:

Any comments?  ;)

matmat, on Jun 27 2008, 02:04 AM, said:

yeah... what's east doing preempting that hand...
You can't really blame an opponent for knowing his customers :)
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