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#1 User is offline   ArcLight 

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Posted 2008-June-18, 09:43

IMPS, Unfavorable

RHO opens 2 hearts (6 card suit, not JT5432 but it doesnt have to be 2/3 or 3/5 honors it could be KJ9872)

What do you do with:

K Q J x x
T x x
K
K T x x


Do you bid 2 Spades or Pass?
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Posted 2008-June-18, 09:49

2 for me although my s are not too appealing it wouldn't stop me from overcalling.
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Posted 2008-June-18, 10:20

2. I can always run to 3 if doubled.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2008-June-18, 11:28

This is a bare min 2 call for me.
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Posted 2008-June-18, 11:32

Not even a minimum for me. A minimum would be if that king of diamonds was the deuce.

I don't mind 3 hearts. I'd rather have 5-3-1-4 than 5-2-2-4.

I supppose I'm off in left field as always. :unsure:
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Posted 2008-June-18, 11:47

I would pass, no strong feelings.
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Posted 2008-June-18, 11:58

It is very tempting to overcall 2, but that would be an overbid. Partner would expect a better hand.

I pass for now, reluctantly.
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Posted 2008-June-18, 12:32

I would pass. The main thing to be looking at on these borderline situations is the heart holding.
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Posted 2008-June-18, 12:47

I know that I should pass, but I'm very tempted to bid 2. No, I have to many hearts. Partner will get us too high with his likely heart shortness. Yes, after all, I have a nice spade suit. No... Yes... If only clubs and diamonds were switched. Then I could at least handle one more response from partner. That settles it. PASS.

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Posted 2008-June-18, 12:50

Easy pass. We have no game if partner can't act, and we may be in real trouble if LHO has a good hand with short hearts.
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Posted 2008-June-18, 13:02

I would bid 2, on a gut feeling that I've gotten better results from similar situations in the past than from passing. If the J were any lower then I'd pass for sure.

edit: as I'm looking at this again bidding looks worse but I would probably bid at the table, at least against most people.
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Posted 2008-June-18, 13:07

My first reaction was a pass. I hate Txx in their suit.
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Posted 2008-June-18, 13:22

I'd bid. One question is, say the auction goes 2-P-3-P-P?

Wouldn't you be tempted to bid in this auction? If partner has singleton heart as the bidding tends to indicate (admittedly this is not always true) then you could easily be on for game. Give partner something like Axxx x xxxx Axxx and game is quite good; I would not necessarily expect partner to double 3 even with a somewhat better hand than this. And it's certainly safer to bid 2 right off than to pass and then try to bid over 3.

My feeling is that if opponents open with a preempt and I have an opening hand with a good five card suit that I can name at the two-level, usually bidding is right regardless of other features of the hand.
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Posted 2008-June-18, 13:52

2. I don't get passing.
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Posted 2008-June-18, 14:29

Trinidad, on Jun 18 2008, 01:47 PM, said:

Partner will get us too high with his likely heart shortness.

That's why I don't mind having 3 hearts. If he has....

Axxx
x
whatever
whatever

I'm willing to wager that if partner thinks it's worth bidding, that I can make it.
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Posted 2008-June-18, 14:42

I would bid 2 but I understand pass. 3H is a bad heart holding, if

a) partner holds 3H
:rolleyes: partner holds 2H, it depends on his spade spots since he is over the hand with shortness.
c) partner holds 1H, may be too late.

I don't think you will get buried.
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Posted 2008-June-18, 18:37

I would bid 2S
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Posted 2008-June-18, 18:55

Reluctant 2.

Hate the heart holding, but scared of being shut out of a vul game by a raise to 4.
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