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restoring destroyed table in text of the article proposition slam bidding

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Posted 2008-June-17, 06:37

This part had to be written new, because the used table has been destroyed by the editor. :P


Realization of these 2 ideas:
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Abbr.: Enq.= Enquirer ¦¦ Res. = Responder ¦¦ AsKs = sum of Aces and Kings
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1. ..... (look at the acticle)

2. If the Enq. will know the AsKs of the P., (s)he has 2 possibilities to do that:

4 ♣ or 4 ♦. This depends on his own AsKs:
When Enq. has 3 or 4 AsKs, the question is 4 ♣,
when (s)he has 5 (or even more), the question is 4 ♦.
The advantage of this question choice is:
The Res. knows rather exactly too, how many controls the Enq. has (the minimum exactly).


The Res.´s answers after 4 ♣:

4 ♦: 0 - 2 AsKs (no slam possible) minimum together 3
4 ♥: 3 AsKs and neighter Single nor a void min. together 6
4 ♠: 3 od. 4 AsKs and either a Single or a void min. together 6
4 NT: 4 AsKs and neither a Single nor a void min. together 7
5 ♣: 5 AsKs 8

The Res.´s answers after 4 ♦:

4 ♥: 0 or 1 AsKs and neither a Single nor a void min. together 5
4 ♠: 1 or 2 AsKs and either a Single or a void min. together 6
4 NT: 2 AsKs and neither a Single nor a void min. together 7
5 ♣: 3 AsKs 8

The rebids of the Enq.: .......
(Look at the article)
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Posted 2008-June-17, 07:10

Sorry, but I think this method is very poor. Give up useful natural cuebids/splinters to basically play 'double gerber'? Bids that both ask and tell are wasteful. Also, I see that you are not showing the trump queen, either. In addition, in this scheme, as far as I can tell, there is no way to tell the difference between being off 2 A's and 2 K's! If you really want this kind of thing, the responses can be structured much better. Here's a scheme I just brewed up.


4♣ - General keycard ask
-4♦ - Bad hand for slam. 2 or fewer keycards
-4♥ - 3
-4♠ - 3 + TQ
-4NT - 4
-5♣ - 4 + Q

After a 4♥+ response, cheapest non-signoff asks for # of side kings, in steps

After 4♦, cheapest non-signoff bid reasks, then:

1st Step - 0
2nd Step - 1
3rd Step - 2
4th Step - 2 + TQ

Then asker can relay again for side kings.

(Note: I'm not seriously suggesting playing this, but I think it is less bad.)
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