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is this hand an auto 3nt bid?
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Posted 2008-June-10, 21:51
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West North East South
3♦ Dbl Pass ?
West North East South
3♦ Dbl Pass ?
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Posted 2008-June-10, 22:08
4♥ imo.
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Posted 2008-June-10, 22:28
4♦ for me.
There are only 3 plausible calls here: 3NT, 4♥ and 4♦.
3NT is bad because partner likely has short diamonds, and we can't hold up at all - without 9 runners, 3NT won't make.
4♥ is reasonable, but partner might not have 4 hearts.
4♦ looks best to me. Partner being 4-4 in the majors and electing to bid 4♠ instead of 4♥ is really the only downside to 4♦.
There are only 3 plausible calls here: 3NT, 4♥ and 4♦.
3NT is bad because partner likely has short diamonds, and we can't hold up at all - without 9 runners, 3NT won't make.
4♥ is reasonable, but partner might not have 4 hearts.
4♦ looks best to me. Partner being 4-4 in the majors and electing to bid 4♠ instead of 4♥ is really the only downside to 4♦.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-June-10, 22:37
Agree with 4D. Hope to hear 4H. With 4-4 Ms pd will bid 4H and not 4S.
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Posted 2008-June-11, 00:45
4 ♥
I don't understand the 4 Diamond bid.
When pd has 5-3 in the majors, he had bid spades, not double.
When he has 5-4 4 Heart is fine.
When he is 4-4 we want to play 4 Heart.
When he is 4-3, I really don't care if we play this or that 4-3 fit.
There is no reason to believe that 4 Spades play better in that case. If our hand had been 3415, there is a point to play 4 Spade. But now....
I don't understand the 4 Diamond bid.
When pd has 5-3 in the majors, he had bid spades, not double.
When he has 5-4 4 Heart is fine.
When he is 4-4 we want to play 4 Heart.
When he is 4-3, I really don't care if we play this or that 4-3 fit.
There is no reason to believe that 4 Spades play better in that case. If our hand had been 3415, there is a point to play 4 Spade. But now....
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Posted 2008-June-11, 01:12
Agree with 4♦. Can't think of a single way this misses the better fit in a major since partner will always 4♥ with 4-4 or 3-3 (if he bids a major). The gain is when partner is 5-3 of course.
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Posted 2008-June-11, 03:40
4D for me
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Posted 2008-June-11, 03:46
Agree with 4♦.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-June-11, 08:43
Yep, 4♦. That ♦ stop is very tenuous.
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Posted 2008-June-11, 08:55
Codo, on Jun 11 2008, 07:45 AM, said:
4 ♥
I don't understand the 4 Diamond bid.
When pd has 5-3 in the majors, he had bid spades, not double.
I don't understand the 4 Diamond bid.
When pd has 5-3 in the majors, he had bid spades, not double.
Looking at a good hand with 5-3 in the majors, many people will double, e.g.
KQJxx
AQx
x
KQxx
the idea being you double, then bid 3S over 3H to show a flexible hand with 5 spades.
Alternatively, if you think partner would always over in spades with a 5-card suit, 4D (two possible strains) will get you to clubs opposite something a little offshape such as
KQxx
Ax
Ax
AJ10xx
(of course if you play in clubs on this hand, you will be playing in clubs on the first one as well, you can't cope with everything)
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