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Posted 2008-June-09, 21:27
It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.
Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
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Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
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Posted 2008-June-09, 21:31
1♠ for me.
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Posted 2008-June-09, 21:41
4 losers? I'm torn between 2♣, 1♠ and 4♠. Probably too good for 4♠ and partner might yell at me for 2♣ so I guess 1♠ it is.
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Posted 2008-June-09, 21:50
1♠ and a BIG WTP
30 ZARs with no upgrades so surely you can't pass .. no rebid issues and the world doesn't have enuf drugs for 2♣
Those who preempt ..I, as usual ask, what are you preempting against ? and hope you miss a black suit slam, preferably a grand.
30 ZARs with no upgrades so surely you can't pass .. no rebid issues and the world doesn't have enuf drugs for 2♣
Those who preempt ..I, as usual ask, what are you preempting against ? and hope you miss a black suit slam, preferably a grand.
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Posted 2008-June-09, 22:12
1♠, non-problem. I am not sure what is dumber, opening this 2♣ strong artificial or opening this 2♣ 11-15 with 6+♣.
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Posted 2008-June-09, 22:21
I don't think 4S is the worst bid ever, but it's pretty bad. I think 1S is clear.
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Posted 2008-June-09, 22:31
1S. Once in awhile I'll open hands like this 4S. Its not as sick as people make it out to be.
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Posted 2008-June-09, 22:59
Scoring: IMP
so the bidding starts off:
(P) 1♠ (P) 2♦
(P) ?
It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.
Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
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Posted 2008-June-09, 23:23
jillybean2, on Jun 9 2008, 11:59 PM, said:
Scoring: IMP
so the bidding starts off:
(P) 1♠ (P) 2♦
(P) ?
3C regardless of whether I am playing SAYC or 2/1. Don't get too caught up in HCP when you are 6-6, just bid your hand out.
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Posted 2008-June-09, 23:51
Scoring: IMP
and now..
1♠:2♦
3♣:3♥
It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare, it is because we do not dare that they are difficult.
Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
Bridge should be fun!
SHAPE!
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." (MH)
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Posted 2008-June-10, 00:08
jillybean2, on Jun 10 2008, 12:51 AM, said:
Scoring: IMP
and now..
1♠:2♦
3♣:3♥
4C.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
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Posted 2008-June-10, 00:35
jillybean2, on Jun 9 2008, 10:27 PM, said:
Scoring: IMP
(P) ?
(P) ?
1) one spade
2) plan on rebidding 2s..........over 90% not not 3c
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Posted 2008-June-10, 00:36
jillybean2, on Jun 10 2008, 12:51 AM, said:
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and now..
1♠:2♦
3♣:3♥
and now..
1♠:2♦
3♣:3♥
object....rebid
2s
1)
Partner saw me open one spade....with pick up partners,no discussion I do not open on junk.
2) we are in game force..slow down ...down....
3) if partner thinks i open on random crap ok....problem.
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Posted 2008-June-10, 03:57
1 club , then rebid spades a few times ; imperative in my view for pt to understand that only black values are any good with my hand
if you open a spade and next hand bids 4 red and pt doubles , what then ?
open a club and rebid spades at whatever is required then pt has the picture
if you open a spade and next hand bids 4 red and pt doubles , what then ?
open a club and rebid spades at whatever is required then pt has the picture
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Posted 2008-June-10, 04:38
Definitely open 1S and rebid 3C. Then 4C, and then 4S if room. Rebidding 2S with this 6-6 hand is criminal.
If I open 1C and then bid spades a couple of times my partner will expect me to hold longer clubs then spades.
If I open 1C and then bid spades a couple of times my partner will expect me to hold longer clubs then spades.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-June-10, 06:09
The old discussion what to do with spades and clubs again?
I really don't care much about the opening bid here, but I would bid 1 Club with my partner and 1 Spade with pick ups, because they don't know that I will do so with clubs as long as spades.
But I will rebid my second suit as long as possible, no way that we or they play NT or a red suit below the 5. level.
I really don't care much about the opening bid here, but I would bid 1 Club with my partner and 1 Spade with pick ups, because they don't know that I will do so with clubs as long as spades.
But I will rebid my second suit as long as possible, no way that we or they play NT or a red suit below the 5. level.
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Posted 2008-June-10, 06:56
While this certainly has playing sterngth, why is 4♠ so terrible?
The opps may have a save in 4 or 5♥ or 5♦.
4♠ is likely to make. 6 spades/clubs requires a lot from pard.
I would bid 4♠ expecting to make.
This also prevents the opps from finding a save.
And they may have a slam too, though unlikely.
>Those who preempt ..I, as usual ask, what are you preempting against ? and hope you miss a black suit slam, preferably a grand.
Opps may have 9 or 10 cards in a red suit and bid it.
The opps may have a save in 4 or 5♥ or 5♦.
4♠ is likely to make. 6 spades/clubs requires a lot from pard.
I would bid 4♠ expecting to make.
This also prevents the opps from finding a save.
And they may have a slam too, though unlikely.
>Those who preempt ..I, as usual ask, what are you preempting against ? and hope you miss a black suit slam, preferably a grand.
Opps may have 9 or 10 cards in a red suit and bid it.
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Posted 2008-June-10, 08:42
4S is not terrible at all. However I would open 1S and rebid 2S, not 3C as the hand lacks the high card strength for that.
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Posted 2008-June-10, 16:18
Open 1♠ then bid clubs.
I expected to see most posters take the normal action of opening 1♠ and rebidding clubs, with a handful of 4♠ openers as the only variation. Wrong again.
I expected to see most posters take the normal action of opening 1♠ and rebidding clubs, with a handful of 4♠ openers as the only variation. Wrong again.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-June-11, 07:28
han, on Jun 10 2008, 11:38 AM, said:
Definitely open 1S and rebid 3C. Then 4C, and then 4S if room. Rebidding 2S with this 6-6 hand is criminal.
If I open 1C and then bid spades a couple of times my partner will expect me to hold longer clubs then spades.
If I open 1C and then bid spades a couple of times my partner will expect me to hold longer clubs then spades.
Totally agree with this !
Alain
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