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When a convention backfires

#1 User is offline   Walddk 

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Posted 2008-June-09, 02:48

Scoring: MP

S: 4S
Lead: H5

Some conventions are excellent, and one poor result does not prove anything. However, bear in mind that sometimes these conventions may backfire. You don't get anything for nothing. Compare the following two auctions on this deal:

A:
1♣ 1♥ 1♠ pass
4♠ - all pass

B:
1♣ 2NT* 3♠** pass
4♠ - all pass

* The unusual 2NT, hearts and diamonds, at least 5-5.
** non-forcing.

The lead is ♥5.

- How do you play the hand after auction A?
- How do you play the hand after auction B?

You may want to start with B, no problem, but please remember which forum we are in and hold back if you are advanced or better.

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Posted 2008-June-09, 03:14

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Posted 2008-June-12, 13:37

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Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

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Posted 2008-June-12, 13:47

Had a rethink. There seems to be quite a strong case for playing it the same way whichever auction.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"

"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2008-June-12, 13:59

Good case example.

The strange thing is that I'd actually be in the worst of all positions, because I'd probably open the hand 2NT. That sucks.

Naw!!! 4333 is too rich with no tens.
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