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Posted 2008-May-28, 14:31

Jxx Kx Q98x K9xx imps.

Opps bidding you silent:

1N 2C
2D 2N
3N p

What do you lead? What would you lead if partner Xed 3N?

edit: 2N didn't promise or deny a major.
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Posted 2008-May-28, 14:33

So if I admit I would probably lead the KH on this auction, would the drug police come and get me?
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Posted 2008-May-28, 14:45

♣x.

Not with any great enthusiasm, but major suit leads don't look attractive, so I lead 4th best of my longest and strongest.

If partner doubled 3NT? Dummy has promised the majors, and partner's double is likely to show that he has stuff in the majors. Actually, with our hand it is hard to see how partner could double. Perhaps a spade, in the hope that a double here is analogous to a double of 1NT-3NT.
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Posted 2008-May-28, 14:53

I am going to lead a low spade with or without the double.

If the ♥K is right, I should have a second chance to lead it. Clearly, minor suit leads are out, with or without the double.
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Posted 2008-May-28, 14:54

Tough one.

I guess I'll lead a small spade.

If partner doubles I'll lead my ♥K.
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Posted 2008-May-28, 15:02

655321, on May 28 2008, 03:45 PM, said:

If partner doubled 3NT? Dummy has promised the majors, and partner's double is likely to show that he has stuff in the majors.

I edited the OP to indicate that dummy didn't promise a major but why would dummy have promised both majors ever anyways? heh
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Posted 2008-May-28, 15:08

Jlall, on May 28 2008, 04:02 PM, said:

655321, on May 28 2008, 03:45 PM, said:

If partner doubled 3NT?  Dummy has promised the majors, and partner's double is likely to show that he has stuff in the majors.

I edited the OP to indicate that dummy didn't promise a major but why would dummy have promised both majors ever anyways? heh

D'oh!

Originally, I wrote that dummy probably did not promise a major, then I reread the auction, and thought that dummy had forced to game. Perhaps because LHO opened 1NT (OK, no excuses, I can't read a simple auction :) )

Anyway(s), I still lead a spade, for the same reason as in my first post.
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Posted 2008-May-28, 15:11

I'd lead a diamond, because no one else has suggested that so far. Also, I have better pips in diamonds than in clubs, which may be useful if declarer has four of them, and my clubs are more likely to provide an entry to my diamonds than vice versa.

A spade lead seems to be playing for partner to have spade length, spade strength and an entry at the right time. That sounds quite a lot.

Usually when partner doubles in this sort of auction, I lead my weakest doubleton. The chance that he has good enough hearts to want one led seems small. On the other hand, the chance that he has a good enough holding in any other suit seems to be even smaller, so I suppose I'd lead a heart.

This post has been edited by gnasher: 2008-May-28, 15:15

... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-May-28, 15:13

gnasher, on May 28 2008, 03:11 PM, said:

A spade lead seems to be playing for partner to have spade length, spade strength and an entry at the right time. That sounds quite a lot.

While I also lead a diamond, probably a spade is the most passive lead.
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Posted 2008-May-28, 15:15

I would make the most passive lead, now pls someone tell me what that is and why.

edit oops I see someone just did, ok a spade for me ty.
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Posted 2008-May-28, 15:48

♦9 if partner passes.

♥K if he doubles. With a due sense of dread.
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Posted 2008-May-28, 16:24

Low ♦.

That 8 spot keeps smiling at me.

If pard doubles, I wouldn't lead a diamond. Probably a low spade, since that might be the winner. A heart could hit the jackpot, but it is so committal.
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Posted 2008-May-28, 16:28

Just to assure myself that all relevant cards are shown -- what is the highest spade card (under the Jack)?
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Posted 2008-May-28, 16:32

I lead a spade without the double, king of hearts with it. This just looks like a "the hand is breaking badly and you have nothing extra" double, which partner would only make if his long suit, very likely hearts here, has some sort of solidity to it.
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Posted 2008-May-28, 17:51

I want to lead the nine of spades. Do I have it?
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Posted 2008-May-28, 20:16

kenrexford, on May 28 2008, 06:51 PM, said:

I want to lead the nine of spades. Do I have it?

Obviously I would have included the 9. You do have the 7 though.
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Posted 2008-May-28, 20:18

jdonn, on May 28 2008, 05:32 PM, said:

I lead a spade without the double, king of hearts with it. This just looks like a "the hand is breaking badly and you have nothing extra" double, which partner would only make if his long suit, very likely hearts here, has some sort of solidity to it.

lol, you have played with me too much!

Partner had KTxx QJTxx xx Tx. Other table led a spade which led to down 1. At my table I doubled and my partner led the SJ which also led to down 1 but a heart lead was down 2. A diamond lead would let it in, I think that would have been my choice without a double.
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Posted 2008-May-28, 20:57

kenrexford, on May 28 2008, 11:51 PM, said:

I want to lead the nine of spades.  Do I have it?

I doubt it. Justin seems to regularly include such things.

Low diamond for me, ♥K with the double with some trepidation - it is just possible that partner has AKxxx in spades I would have thought - though it would seem highly unlikely.

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Posted 2008-May-28, 21:52

Well, the heart King is a decent lead, but I'm still leading the spade 9. I think Justin missed that card. LOL
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Posted 2008-May-28, 22:56

I would lead a [D] .... i think the auction suggestes a safe lead and it would be the most atractive safeste one. With a double though i would lead a major, probably, [H] K.
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