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Reopening call

Poll: Your call (23 member(s) have cast votes)

Your call

  1. Pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Double (18 votes [78.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 78.26%

  3. 2S (5 votes [21.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.74%

  4. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

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#1 User is offline   paulg 

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Posted 2008-May-20, 04:05

Scoring: IMP

West  North  East  South
    -        -        -      1♦
  2♥   Pass   Pass    ?

(2♥ is weak)

You are South. This is not a good problem as there are only two answers (imo), but that hasn't prevented my partner and I having the mildest disagreement about the best reopening call.

If it matters, you are the pleb at the table as everyone else has a star.

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Posted 2008-May-20, 04:09

I think the only call is X.
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Posted 2008-May-20, 04:28

Yeah, dbl seems pretty clear. The void isn't good, but we got a lot of defensive tricks, so it should be ok. And if pard bids, the hand will grow lots.
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Posted 2008-May-20, 04:33

Jlall, on May 20 2008, 11:09 AM, said:

I think the only call is X.

So do I.

There was a hand at the S4s where we were the only pair I know about not to go for an 800+ penalty when a similar (ish) hand did not reopen with a double at the 1-level.
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Posted 2008-May-20, 04:40

Jlall, on May 20 2008, 12:09 PM, said:

I think the only call is X.

What Justin said

or

East passed down his game forcing values to lure you into dbl to win extra IMPs for the overtricks.
(Does anybody believe that?)
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Posted 2008-May-20, 06:16

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Posted 2008-May-20, 06:29

OK, I'm convinced.

In reality i never got the chance to make the decision as RHO bid 4♣ and we eventually took +500 from 4♥-X (down 3).

Partner, holding ♠Qxxxxx ♥AJxxx ♦- ♣xx, now believes his pass was wrong and he should have simply bid 2♠.

in the other room, my hand had a different bidding problem after 1♦-(1♥)-1♠ - (5♣). The selection was 6♠ and this went one down.

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Posted 2008-May-20, 06:38

cardsharp, on May 20 2008, 07:29 AM, said:

OK, I'm convinced.

In reality i never got the chance to make the decision as RHO bid 4♣ and we eventually took +500 from 4♥-X (down 3).

Partner, holding ♠Qxxxxx ♥AJxxx ♦- ♣xx, now believes his pass was wrong and he should have simply bid 2♠.

in the other room, my hand had a different bidding problem after 1♦-(1♥)-1♠ - (5♣). The selection was 6♠ and this went one down.

Paul

I think his pass is fine, he should just not pass a reopening X. Bidding 2S with that many hearts is asking for trouble.
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Posted 2008-May-20, 07:01

Double. Some very good players subscribe to the theory that one should not double with a void. Although it would be nice to have one to shoot through declarer at some point, my philosophy is:

'The fewer I have, the more partner has if he passes.'

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Posted 2008-May-20, 10:09

Please not the 'don't double with a void' discussion again.
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Posted 2008-May-20, 10:43

Walddk, on May 20 2008, 01:01 PM, said:

Although it would be nice to have one to shoot through declarer at some point, my philosophy is:

'The fewer I have, the more partner has if he passes.'

I think it's more: "The fewer I have, the more likely is opps have that extra card I should have because there's 2 of them and only 1 partner!!!"
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Posted 2008-May-20, 12:42

pclayton, on May 20 2008, 11:09 AM, said:

Please not the 'don't double with a void' discussion again.

And I also make the obvious reopening X !
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Posted 2008-May-20, 14:43

Last time I didn't reopen with a double holding shortness, I held:

♠ AJ754
♥ 3
♦ AT9642
♣ 2

Both vul, the auction began: 1♦ - (1♥) - P - (P); ?

So I reopened with 1♠.

Partner held ♠Q93 ♥ AQJ984 ♦ 75 ♣ A8

Note I still would reopen 1♠ if I had to do it over again and on the hand from the OP, I think it's a completely clear Double.
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Posted 2008-May-20, 15:45

Double.

The void makes you think, but this hand looks good if partner passes the double.
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Posted 2008-May-21, 03:04

Echognome, on May 20 2008, 08:43 PM, said:

Last time I didn't reopen with a double holding shortness, I held:

♠ AJ754
♥ 3
♦ AT9642
♣ 2

Both vul, the auction began: 1♦ - (1♥) - P - (P); ?

So I reopened with 1♠.

Partner held ♠Q93 ♥ AQJ984 ♦ 75 ♣ A8

Note I still would reopen 1♠ if I had to do it over again and on the hand from the OP, I think it's a completely clear Double.

What's the problem? opps have 10 clubs and 4th player probably won't leave it at 1♥ X. Your 1♠ is totally fine.

Even better would be to OPEN 1♠ :)
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