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Jump advance to TO double Does it matter if 3rd hand acts?

#1 User is offline   TimG 

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Posted 2008-May-19, 10:37

Is there a difference in expected strength between these two jumps to 3♦?

P-P-1♥-DBL
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Posted 2008-May-19, 10:42

No, although there may be a slight change in hand type
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Posted 2008-May-19, 11:11

Probably no, but it might, depending on whether or not you play responsive doubles here. I can think of a lot of 5D332 hands where I'd rather double on instead of jumping to 3♦.
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Posted 2008-May-19, 11:17

If dbl shows spades, we have two cuebids available, don't we? Anyone who have assigned meanings to those two cuebids?
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Posted 2008-May-19, 11:17

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Posted 2008-May-19, 11:36

helene_t, on May 19 2008, 06:17 PM, said:

If dbl shows spades, we have two cuebids available, don't we? Anyone who have assigned meanings to those two cuebids?

It's normal (well, fairly normal from round here) to play that

1H x 1S...

x = exactly 4 spades, values to compete to the 2-level (or 5 spades too strong to bid 2S or 3S at once)
2S = natural, 5 spades
3S, 4S = also natural

The cue bid tends to deny 4 spades, so takes the place of a responsive double

When RHO ostensibly has shown 4 cards in your suit it's quite important to know the size of your fit: there's a huge difference between a 5-4 fit breaking 4-0 and a 4-4 fit breaking 4-1 or 5-0.
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