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#21 User is offline   jtfanclub 

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Posted 2008-May-19, 15:15

Rossoneri, on May 18 2008, 12:05 PM, said:

jtfanclub, on May 18 2008, 11:27 PM, said:

Rossoneri, on May 17 2008, 12:13 AM, said:

2) Nothing wrong with the comments...pretty good criticism, but suggested D?

Defend the 1 like it was a Polish Club.
Defend the 1 like it was a Precision Diamond
Defend the 2 level bids by thinking about dead puppies so you don't laugh hysterically as they end up in some insane contract.

Why Polish Club? The 1C opening seems rather different from PC.

I wasn't aware of a special defence against Prec 1D.

The system as written, the one club opening will most often be 12+, weak balanced, clubs, or very strong, which is the same as Polish Club. Any defense that works well against Polish Club should work against this system.

I assume that you've played against Polish Club and Precision before, or you will in the future. I don't see any point in wasting brain cells learning a defense for this system when defenses for other systems should do an adequate job.

I'm sure I can scare up a link to a good Precision 1 defense, or you can ask here. Jlall and company play against that sort of system often enough that they probably have a strong preference (I don't).
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Posted 2008-May-19, 15:26

A lot of players at my local club seem to play a system that reminds me a tiny bit of this, where:

(1) 1 opening shows 5+.
(2) Open 1 with most balanced hands not in notrump range or with 4441 pattern.
(3) The 2 opening is still strong.

Over 1, which is not forcing, 1M shows five in the major bid and 1 denies a five-card major (after which opener bids 4cM up the line).

I suppose this method makes some sense if you hate missing 5-3 major fits and also hate playing 4-3 major fits. And it does give you some advantage in competition when you open 1 (in exchange for some losses when you open 1, although honestly standard 1 is not great in competition either).
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Posted 2008-May-21, 02:05

jtfanclub, on May 20 2008, 05:15 AM, said:

I'm sure I can scare up a link to a good Precision 1 defense, or you can ask here. Jlall and company play against that sort of system often enough that they probably have a strong preference (I don't).

Post it :)
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