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What now? Double trouble

Poll: What do you do over partner's takeout double? (27 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you do over partner's takeout double?

  1. Pass (2 votes [7.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.41%

  2. 2C (1 votes [3.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.70%

  3. 2D (22 votes [81.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 81.48%

  4. 2H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 2S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 2N (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. An insufficient bid to get partner barred, then 2 spades (2 votes [7.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.41%

  8. Other call (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. Claim you have to go to the bathroom then get in the car & leave (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Posted 2008-May-14, 22:55

Scoring: IMP

P-(1)-P-(1N),
X-(P)-?


What do you do now?
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Posted 2008-May-15, 00:04

2D. Not passing.
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Posted 2008-May-15, 00:15

2D
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Posted 2008-May-15, 00:50

Hi,

eliminate the options:

#1 Pass - no way, me dont have the bal. of power
#2 2NT - if I wont pass, why 2NT?
#2 2S - since I am not limited, this is the only strong bid
I have, so that is out as well
#4 thats leaves 2C, 2D, 2H ... natural weak bids, and
I choose my longest suit

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Posted 2008-May-15, 03:02

2 looks pretty obvious.

Partner is a passed hand, also he is known to be very short in spades, and so might be doubling quite light - i.e. they have the majority of the high cards, and 1NTX is just a question of overtricks at 200 a pop.

Luckily, we have a preference - our longest non-spade suit.
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Posted 2008-May-15, 03:41

Pass.

This is not a good situation, and I could very easily make it worse by bidding.
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Posted 2008-May-15, 03:55

2 wtp
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Posted 2008-May-15, 04:23

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Posted 2008-May-15, 08:12

I'm a little disappointed by the unanimity of the comments so far. I thought 2 clubs was by far the best bid, as it gives us two shots of getting out undoubled (if 2 clubs gets doubled, you can run to 2 diamonds. 2 diamonds gets doubled, and you have less options). It also has the benefit of being slightly better if your partner's on opening lead, as you can stand a lead in the suit.

As it is, 2 clubs by you gets a 2 diamonds response to your left, while a 2 diamonds response gets a quick double. Are you sitting?
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Posted 2008-May-15, 08:17

CSGibson, on May 15 2008, 09:12 PM, said:

I'm a little disappointed by the unanimity of the comments so far.  I thought 2 clubs was by far the best bid, as it gives us two shots of getting out undoubled (if 2 clubs gets doubled, you can run to 2 diamonds.  2 diamonds gets doubled, and you have less options).  It also has the benefit of being slightly better if your partner's on opening lead, as you can stand a lead in the suit. 

As it is, 2 clubs by you gets a 2 diamonds response to your left, while a 2 diamonds response gets a quick double.  Are you sitting?

Of course I am sitting. Pd knew what he was doing when he doubled. Doubling in this particular auction is very dangerous. Why are you disappointed with the unanimity. You bid your best suit and ds is better than Cs, is it not?
I would actually suggest to you that if 2C gets doubled you are more likely to get doubled in 2D, than by bidding an immediate 2D.
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Posted 2008-May-15, 08:19

The_Hog, on May 15 2008, 06:17 AM, said:

CSGibson, on May 15 2008, 09:12 PM, said:

I'm a little disappointed by the unanimity of the comments so far.  I thought 2 clubs was by far the best bid, as it gives us two shots of getting out undoubled (if 2 clubs gets doubled, you can run to 2 diamonds.  2 diamonds gets doubled, and you have less options).  It also has the benefit of being slightly better if your partner's on opening lead, as you can stand a lead in the suit. 

As it is, 2 clubs by you gets a 2 diamonds response to your left, while a 2 diamonds response gets a quick double.  Are you sitting?

Of course I am sitting. Pd knwe what he was doing wehn he doubled. Why are you disappointed with the unanimity. You bid your best suit and ds is better than Cs, is it not?

I'm pretty sure I explained my disappointment in the unanimity (basic points: lack of flexibility, can't stand a diamond lead) if you scroll up. Or was that rhetorical? Hard to tell on a forum.
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Posted 2008-May-15, 20:12

What was the hand? I'd be interested to see pd'd X here.
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Posted 2008-May-15, 21:07

2C may give us more chances to get out undoubled, but that does not make it more likely to get out undoubled. It is easily possible that they can double us in clubs allowing the other guy to double us in diamonds when if we had bid 2D it would have gone all pass. It is better to make the bid that is much less likely to get doubled immediately rather than to allow for 2C X p p 2D...
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Posted 2008-May-15, 22:10

2 and in tempo and happy my hand isn't worse.
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Posted 2008-May-16, 00:11

Ok, I give. Enough people saying the same thing means my idea probably doesn't pass muster.

As for partner's hand, I can't give it to you, the hand was given as a problem to me by a friend; I just thought it interesting enough to pass along. She gave me the results instead, that either 2 diamonds or 2 spades (after correcting from 2 diamonds doubled, if that was your option) goes down large doubled, while 2 clubs or pass gets LHO to bid 2 diamonds.
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