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You open 1♥ and partner bids 2♥, showing 7-10 and 3-card support. Plan the auction.
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Slam investigation
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Posted 2008-May-10, 02:17
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-May-10, 02:30
Sometimes you get lucky, and run into a hand, that suits your methods almost perfectly. This is one such hand for me.
I start with 4♣, showing a void. My partner can then bid 4♦, LTTC, if this suits his hand. If it does i check aces outside Clubs with 4♠. If he has it, I check for Trumph-Queen, and makes a gand-slam invite. If he hasnt, I have to guess, but the odds heavily favours slam, so I bid it.
Best Regards
Ole Berg
I start with 4♣, showing a void. My partner can then bid 4♦, LTTC, if this suits his hand. If it does i check aces outside Clubs with 4♠. If he has it, I check for Trumph-Queen, and makes a gand-slam invite. If he hasnt, I have to guess, but the odds heavily favours slam, so I bid it.
Best Regards
Ole Berg
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Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
Do not underestimate the power of the dark side. Or the ninth trumph.
Best Regards Ole Berg
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We should always assume 2/1 unless otherwise stated, because:
- If the original poster didn't bother to state his system, that means that he thinks it's obvious what he's playing. The only people who think this are 2/1 players.
Gnasher
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Posted 2008-May-10, 03:58
2♠. Now if pard bids:
- 3♠: Now 6 is a stand out and you can bid it straight away, more worried of missing 7 than going down.
- 4♥: this one is tricky. But you can follow up with 5♦.
- Else: hands don't fit. Close auction at 4♥.
- 3♠: Now 6 is a stand out and you can bid it straight away, more worried of missing 7 than going down.
- 4♥: this one is tricky. But you can follow up with 5♦.
- Else: hands don't fit. Close auction at 4♥.
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Posted 2008-May-10, 05:03
I agree with Nuno, however i can't bid 2S as this would be a puppet to 2NT preparing for a short suit trial. So I would bid 2NT which shows a S suit. The rest is as Nuno posted.
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Posted 2008-May-10, 12:07
I would bid 2NT to show the spade suit as Ron does.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2008-May-11, 03:00
Suppose that you show spades and partner says that he accepts your game try *. What will you do now?
* In most partnerships, I suppose, he'll do this by bidding 4♥. In my partnerships partner would accept the game try by bidding 3NT, thereby allowing more space for slam investigations on a hand like this.
* In most partnerships, I suppose, he'll do this by bidding 4♥. In my partnerships partner would accept the game try by bidding 3NT, thereby allowing more space for slam investigations on a hand like this.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-May-11, 09:56
Hi,
after 3NT I bid 5C, which should show a void.
Slam will be good, if partner has clubs, but
acceptance of the game try may merely be
based on HCP power, i.e. partner my simply
be looking at AKQ in club or a similar holding.
It does not really matter, if 5C is Voidwood
or not, although I would prefer, if it were not.
I would make the same bid over 4H.
With kind regards
Marlowe
after 3NT I bid 5C, which should show a void.
Slam will be good, if partner has clubs, but
acceptance of the game try may merely be
based on HCP power, i.e. partner my simply
be looking at AKQ in club or a similar holding.
It does not really matter, if 5C is Voidwood
or not, although I would prefer, if it were not.
I would make the same bid over 4H.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2008-May-11, 23:48
My methods are simple and natural.
If I bid 4♦ I'm looking for fitting honors and slam interest but I don't expect PD to value his J which I may not need anyhow..so I make a 2♠ game try again asking for fitting honors.
Ideally PD will love it and raise to 3♠ and we may even have a Grand !
If I bid 4♦ I'm looking for fitting honors and slam interest but I don't expect PD to value his J which I may not need anyhow..so I make a 2♠ game try again asking for fitting honors.
Ideally PD will love it and raise to 3♠ and we may even have a Grand !
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Posted 2008-May-12, 06:18
A tool here would be nice, as suggested by others.
I also start 2♠. A tool is to have means of distinguishing why partner is raising to game. In this specific sequence, 3♠ as a raise of spades, or 3NT, makes sense.
A discussion point. If the new suit was anything but spades, using 3NT as a power raise of the new suit gains space. E.g., 1♠-2♠-3♥-3NT. 3NT agrees hearts and saves space for slam tries if hearts is the contract.
I also start 2♠. A tool is to have means of distinguishing why partner is raising to game. In this specific sequence, 3♠ as a raise of spades, or 3NT, makes sense.
A discussion point. If the new suit was anything but spades, using 3NT as a power raise of the new suit gains space. E.g., 1♠-2♠-3♥-3NT. 3NT agrees hearts and saves space for slam tries if hearts is the contract.
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Posted 2008-May-12, 10:11
I would make a void showing bid if available, otherwise would show spades.
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