[blewah]

Scoring: IMP

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1♥-(3♣)-3♦-(4♣)-DBL-(P)-4♠-(P)-?

What's the plan for South?

Notes: N/S do not play Negative Free Bid

[pclayton]

If 4N is keycard thats what I will bid. I have the stone nuts for pard who is probably 5=6.

7 is possible.

[whereagles]

The way pard bid seems to indictate a very good hand with 5 diamonds and 4 spades. There's a tendency for 4252 or even 4261. So 4NT now.

Hope pard doesn't take it as... natural!

[pclayton]

whereagles, on May 5 2008, 07:47 AM, said:

The way pard bid seems to indictate a very good hand with 5 diamonds and 4 spades. There's a tendency for 4252 or even 4261. So 4NT now.

Hope pard doesn't take it as... natural!

I don't think a 4-5 or 4-6 is pulling 4♣ x'd Nuno.

[whereagles]

Maybe it shouldn't. But things like that happen...

[han]

I don't think partner has shown a very strong hand, how else would you bid AQ10xx x KQ10xxx x (and probably weaker).

Of course that's a pretty good slam.

[pclayton]

han, on May 5 2008, 01:08 PM, said:

I don't think partner has shown a very strong hand, how else would you bid AQ10xx x KQ10xxx x (and probably weaker).

Of course that's a pretty good slam.

Hand much weaker aren't bidding 3♦, but yeah we have the tickets.

[ArtK78]

Why wouldn't 4NT be natural on this auction?

I would be very wary about acting over 4♠. Isn't partner's bidding consistent with:

Qxxxx
x
KQJxxx
x

(would he really make a negative double on those cards?)

Of course, his bidding is also consistent with

AQT9x
x
QJxxxx
x

which is a pretty good slam.

If someone would explain to me why 4NT is not natural on this auction, I would be willing to listen. But if I am making a move, my move would be 5♣ - an unambiguous slam try with a spade fit. Whether partner will cooperate on the second hand is far from clear. But at least if he has:

AQT9x
x
Axxxxx
x

we will get to slam (possible a making grand) and we won't play in 4NT.

[blewah]

I also believe that 4NT would be natural here. Appreciate enlightment from those who say blackwood, though.

Would 5♠ be an option?

[P_Marlowe]

blewah, on May 5 2008, 10:36 AM, said:

Dealer: South Vul: Both Scoring: IMP

♠ KJxx ♥ Axxxx ♦ x ♣ AKx

1♥-(3♣)-3♦-(4♣)-DBL-(P)-4♠-(P)-?

What's the plan for South?

Notes: N/S do not play Negative Free Bid

1H - (3CL) - 3D - (4CL)
X - (P) - 4S - (P)
???

It is either pass or 5S, I am currently leaning
toward 5S, but ask me tomorow.

5S should be a quantitative inv. to 6S.
Even if 4NT is RKCB (most likely), it wont tell you,
what you need to know.
Partner will certainly hold at least 1 KC, and
most likely the Queen of spades as well,
what you want to know is, does partner have
something to spade.

With kind regards
Marlowe