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One Hand Two Judgements How much do you bid?

#21 User is offline   jdonn 

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Posted 2008-April-22, 21:59

pclayton, on Apr 22 2008, 10:21 PM, said:

1. AQxx, AKxxx, Ax, Kx
2. KQxx, AKxxx, Axx, x
3. KJx, AKxxx, AQ, Kxx

Would you be making a slam try over a 2 call with any of these hands? On #2, they need to find the spade duck to break 6, but otherwise slam is pretty good on the others.

1. Yes 2. No (sorry can't bid every 23 point slam....) 3. No (on two finesses, granted of course you want to be there on this auction)

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By the way, with your example, the opponents are mighty quiet with 10 spades.

No, with my example they were mighty quiet with 9 spades. It was the actual hand where they were mighty quiet with 10 spades.
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Posted 2008-April-22, 23:43

N has 21 hcp and a likely working dblton and needs a fitting ace, the Q of and note responder can have 5 and a fitting J and A to have great play for slam.

I'd flash the monster hand signal by bidding 2 and then bidding my game and catering to responder's caution in not jumping to 3 here.

Somehow the opps missed their chances to muddy the waters with some preemption.
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Posted 2008-April-23, 00:46

1/ I prefer 3H (slight overbid) rather than 2H which covers too much territory in classic methods (I guess i would bid 2H with 0 points and 5H ) .
2/ Do not think partner would bid 4H with a flattish 18-19 and 4 hearts (3H over 2H is enough); rebidding is probably ok but I bid 3H on the 1ST round to avoid facing that problem
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Posted 2008-April-23, 01:56

marcD, on Apr 23 2008, 01:46 AM, said:

1/ I prefer 3H (slight overbid) rather than 2H which covers too much territory in classic methods (I guess i would bid 2H with 0 points and 5H ) .
2/ Do not think partner would bid 4H with a flattish 18-19 and 4 hearts (3H over 2H is enough); rebidding is probably ok but I bid 3H on the 1ST round to avoid facing that problem

100% agree
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Posted 2008-April-23, 01:57

kenrexford, on Apr 23 2008, 03:29 AM, said:

P-P-1-X-
P-2-P-2-
P-3?

This seems right to me, but I'm not sure.  Any thoughts?

This is another hand where an artificial negative over partner's cue bid would work well. I'd like to show both my fifth heart and my diamond suit. However, 3D only promises 4-4, and 3H is non-forcing.

I'd bid 3D, which I don't think partner can pass, followed by 4C if I get the chance.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-April-23, 02:39

I would bid 3.
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Posted 2008-April-23, 02:39

I agree with the small minority here:

It is possible to reevaluate your hand after a 2 Heart bid.

I bid 2 Heart with xxxxx,xxx,xxx,xx, won't you?

Pd bid game opposite my weakest call and I have an ace, a single and a 5. trump extra and should bid this hand after his bid in the same way I had bid my non fitting yarb.?

This is not possible. But pd should make a slam try just in case I may have this super maximum?

Sorry, this is bs., even if it is the majority view.

Here in Europe it is more common to jump to 3 Heart with the given hand, which had make the slam bidding much easier.
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Posted 2008-April-23, 03:30

Right. But in the other side of the ocean, people tend to respond a tad heavier to take out dbls.
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Posted 2008-April-23, 04:05

#1 I have seen both hands, so I may be biased, my answer
would be, 3H is an option, but 2H is not wrong.

#2 No.

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Posted 2008-April-23, 05:40

3 is absolutely automatic as I'm used to play.
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