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Your call Hand Evaluation

Poll: What's your choice? (43 member(s) have cast votes)

What's your choice?

  1. Pass (26 votes [60.47%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.47%

  2. Stayman; rebid 2NT if no spade fit (16 votes [37.21%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.21%

  3. Force game (1 votes [2.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.33%

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#1 User is online   awm 

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Posted 2008-April-20, 23:00

Scoring: IMP


After two passes, partner opens 1NT (15-17). RHO passes. What is your plan?

You're playing fairly standard methods over 1NT.
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Posted 2008-April-20, 23:18

I would pass playing these methods.
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Posted 2008-April-20, 23:31

I would invite.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2008-April-20, 23:36

I would bid stayman but don't really have any problem with pass.
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Posted 2008-April-20, 23:53

i invite via stayman
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Posted 2008-April-20, 23:55

I tend to invite with marginal hands (with pass the other alternative) with a four-card major unless 4-3-3-3.
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Posted 2008-April-21, 00:12

Pass for me not vulnerable.
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Posted 2008-April-21, 04:32

must bid at imps. stayman + invite
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Posted 2008-April-21, 05:22

Pass.
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Posted 2008-April-21, 05:29

If I invite with random 8-counts I must also invite with this one I think. But maybe I shouldn't do that either. I was surprised to see in my analysis of the GIB database that 3NT with 25 points combined has slightly less than 50% chance of making. My feeling is that it's better than that. I wonder if my feelings are wrong or if DD results are unrealistic (shouldn't have much bias for 3N contracts) or if it's because I play in weak fields and declaring is easier than defending.
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Posted 2008-April-21, 05:30

I think I would pass, I have a feeling the ♦ suit is wide open and no ♠fit :)

Very close to inviting though, and that may well be right.
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Posted 2008-April-21, 05:46

helene_t, on Apr 21 2008, 01:29 PM, said:

If I invite with random 8-counts I must also invite with this one I think. But maybe I shouldn't do that either. I was surprised to see in my analysis of the GIB database that 3NT with 25 points combined has slightly less than 50% chance of making. My feeling is that it's better than that. I wonder if my feelings are wrong or if DD results are unrealistic (shouldn't have much bias for 3N contracts) or if it's because I play in weak fields and declaring is easier than defending.

I think declarer has a biiig advantage in 3NT contracts.
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Posted 2008-April-21, 06:01

At imps, I bid...

Stayman + invite
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Posted 2008-April-21, 06:50

Invite for me.
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Posted 2008-April-21, 07:01

Pass.

With kind regards
Marlowe
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Posted 2008-April-21, 07:10

so nice to have such a great consensus here
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Posted 2008-April-21, 08:14

Take away the two tens and pass is a clear winner. This hand must be worth an invite, its too trick heavy
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Posted 2008-April-21, 10:11

Pass.

We might have a spade fit and we might not. If we missed 4♠, sorry pard.

If you think this has the values for an quantitative invite, I would strongly disagree. We might have 3N opposite a perfecto max, but there are many, many more 16s where 3N is hopeless and down a bundle.
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Posted 2008-April-21, 10:37

Very close call. I would probably pass when white, Stayman when red. Very close.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-April-21, 10:46

Out of 10..Pass=6 Invite=4 to me.

If I Stayman and PD bids ♥ a ♦ lead becomes really likely and that could be bad and my hand may not be quick to enter without losing the lead again or more than once in NT.

If I Stayman and PD bids 2♠ and declines the invite, maybe 8 tricks is the limit and we are off 1.

I'll pass and give up on a decent number of games where PD is max and either fits ♠ or my C's mean that we make 3NT as I just think we are a tad too weak to invite.
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