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#1 User is offline   sceptic 

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Posted 2008-April-13, 11:47

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Scoring: IMP


West North East South

- - 1♦ 2♠
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Posted 2008-April-13, 12:03

3NT - I think we can make it.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 12:28

sceptic, on Apr 13 2008, 01:17 PM, said:

does that not give up on a  diamond slam ?

While 3NT does not show 5 diamonds, it doesn't end all auctions. I don't think there is a problem with downgrading slam prospects a bit with AKQ in the enemy suit - those honors aren't going to be useful in generating long suit tricks -- on this auction you'd rather have ♠Axx ♥KQx than ♠AKQ ♥QTx, wouldn't you?
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Posted 2008-April-13, 19:07

sceptic, on Apr 13 2008, 01:17 PM, said:

does that not give up on a  diamond slam ?

Yes. Unless partner wants to move over 3NT.

Seriously, Wayne, why would you be concerned about missing slam with a soft-looking 5332 shape opposite a simple 1-bid opening? The hand may count to 15, but it's not much better than a decent 13 for playing strength.

The time to think about slam is when you hold a slammish hand - that's the best way I know to put it - maybe that's why I am a lousy teacher. The differences are simply obvious to me, but not easily quantified without posting hand-after-hand of comparisons.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 19:18

3NT.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 19:21

Winston said it all.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 20:19

Yes, I agree. Good post Winston. I also think 3NT is a standout.
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Posted 2008-April-14, 00:49

Easy 3NT
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Posted 2008-April-14, 01:31

sceptic, on Apr 13 2008, 01:17 PM, said:

does that not give up on a  diamond slam ?

It does, but AKQ in their suit is not a good sign
that slam is on, on what was 2S based on?

Another question: What are your alternatives?
If you played it, you could bid 3C as a transfer
to diamonds showing support, intending to
bid 3 NT over 3D.
This sequence would show the diamond support
the spade stopper and the bal. nature of your hand.

I think given the bal. nature of the West hand
and the rock solid stopper in spades 3NT is clear.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: An additionnal aspect is, how solid does partner
usally open, is the given opening hand a dead min,
or is it possible, that he could be weaker.
With kind regards
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Posted 2008-April-14, 02:20

Ever since Winston started posting bridge again, there's been so much more understanding and friendliness here. I wonder...
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Posted 2008-April-14, 16:42

3NT.

Actually in my regular partnership we play:

2NT either GF or 6-9 diamond raise

3♦ invitational diamond raise

We also have 3♠ as a diamond raise without a spade stopper (usually 0-1 spades)

So I would bid 2NT and then 3NT and partner would be able to move on suitable hands.
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