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#1 User is offline   deneme 

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Posted 2008-April-12, 01:05

Scoring: IMP


i opened 1 heart
my p bided 1 spade
i bided 2 club
my p bided 2 diamond

i bided 2 nt

what s your choice 2nt 3 club or others
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Posted 2008-April-12, 03:12

Both 2NT and 3♣ are fine, though 3♣. Matter of style.

Dangerous situation, though. 3NT might not make despite 25-26 hcps.
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Posted 2008-April-12, 07:32

3♣. Prefer to show the 5th club first. I'll normally get the opportunity to rebid 3NT.
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Posted 2008-April-12, 08:19

I think 3C is much much better than 2NT.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-April-12, 08:43

P asked you to bid something descriptive. 3C is. After 3C, you can still show your diamond stop(s).
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Posted 2008-April-12, 10:09

I also think 3C is much more descriptive. 3NT might be horrible on a spade lead.
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Posted 2008-April-12, 10:30

I prefer 3♣, but I don't think 3♦ is terrible.
2N is not an option.
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Posted 2008-April-12, 10:36

Definitely agree with all the 3♣ bidders. Also agree with cherdano that if forced to choose I prefer 3♦ to 2NT, only because I really dislike 2NT with a spade void.
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Posted 2008-April-12, 10:42

2NT ..........................................................
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would never occur to me as a possible bid here
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Posted 2008-April-12, 12:49

I'll go out on a limb here and defend 2N :)

1. Pard can efficiently support clubs or hearts over 2N.

2. A 'delayed' 3N sounds like a marginal diamond stopper to me.

3. Pard can rebid 3♦ over 2N very easily as well with a 5-5 in the pointed's. This will be a nice dummy.

4. My worry about 3N isn't diamonds, it's spades. I think showing the good diamond stopper now will have pard examine his spades and tell me if we should be fishing other spots.
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Posted 2008-April-12, 20:32

I would bid 3C. I do agree with Phil, though that 2NT has its points and is not as poor as is made out. 3D is a poor bid however, suggesting a 0544 shape.
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Posted 2008-April-12, 22:11

I would bid 3♦, by agreement I do not have 4 diamonds on this secuence.
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