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3 diamonds anyone? I got lambassed for it

#1 User is offline   sceptic 

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Posted 2008-April-13, 04:00


Scoring: IMP


West North East South

- - Pass 1♣
2♥ 3♦ 5♥ 6♦
Pass Pass Pass
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Posted 2008-April-13, 04:07

3♦ is a joke, right?
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 06:54

:)
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Posted 2008-April-13, 07:03

3♦ isn't a thing of beauty. But it did lead to a good slam that's quite hard to bid, so wtp? :) :)
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Posted 2008-April-13, 10:45

kenrexford, on Apr 13 2008, 02:54 PM, said:

:)

what he said
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Posted 2008-April-13, 10:51

gwnn, on Apr 13 2008, 09:45 AM, said:

kenrexford, on Apr 13 2008, 02:54 PM, said:

:)

what he said

ditto :blink:
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Posted 2008-April-13, 11:01

First, 3♦ is not a good bid. So it is easy to see why you were lambasted for it.

Second, as a passed hand, 3♦ clearly also implies club support, which you have. It seems to me, however, you are both short one club and one diamond. After this 3♦ bid, it is hard to imagine you missed 7♦, which can make even with the pitiful hand you held, but the barrage 5♥ makes finding the spade ace difficult.

I assume it was your opponents complaining, partner should be at least happy with the result.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 11:21

What's up with these threads?
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Posted 2008-April-13, 11:57

Wayne, in all seriousness, 3♦ is a very bad bid. It is game forcing, and it shows more diamonds.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 16:21

inquiry, on Apr 13 2008, 06:01 PM, said:

Second, as a passed hand, 3♦ clearly also implies club support, which you have.

He wasn't a passed hand.

Anyway, you can double or pass or maybe bid 3♣ (I would chose the latter if playing Acol. Playing SA I think I would pass, 2nd choice dbl).

3♦ will take you to a hopeless 3N when p has the usual balanced 12-count, and to a hopeless diamond slam when p has much more than that.
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Posted 2008-April-13, 18:59

Does anyone have a good recipe for lamb-basted - it sounds tasty. Mint sauce, anyone?
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Posted 2008-April-14, 09:22

While I would devalue this and double the 2♥ bid, I think a 3♦ call is reasonable. People often pre-empt with poor suits over a strong club, and it's likely that 3NT is where you want to play it from South's side.

BTW, I don't know if you noticed, but you accidentally posted this in the wrong forum.
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Posted 2008-April-14, 17:47

You just might be the only one bidding 3♦.
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