[sheepman]

Scoring: IMP

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Weak Nt/4CM

1♣-2♦-4♣-4♠
P-P-?

You disagree with 4C? Don't blame you, but deal with it, 2♦ was Pre-emptive.

2 Day swiss teams (14 matches) with approx 40 entries, your playing one of the best teams in a fairly weak field.

[CSGibson]

I have no idea what's making, but partner didn't double 4 spades, and I'm about to contribute one trick at most to the defense. Heck, we might even be making 5 clubs.

[benlessard]

Pass 5CX can turn out to be expensive. If we believe the 2D is based on a 6 carder and that partner doesnt have 5C. Partner shapes is probably 4423 or (43)24, with a 4414 partner would probably find a X or bid 5C playing me for the stiff spades.

[gnasher]

Pass. I bid 4♦ hoping that they'd misjudge; maybe they have. Partner shouldn't be obliged to double 4♠ just because he thinks it likely to go one down, and in any case I have more defence than he might expect.

[gnasher]

benlessard, on Apr 11 2008, 07:12 AM, said:

Partner shapes is probably 4423 or (43)24

It said "Weak Nt/4CM", so 4423 is probably ruled out. (43)24 might or not be possible, depending on the partnership's style.

[jdonn]

This is a very easy pass. Pard didn't save and we have certainly bid all we are worth.

[Codo]

If pd has xxxx,Axx,x,Akxxx we are close to make 5 Club on a cross ruff and they will make 4 Spade. Same is true for nearly any hand where partner provides one trick in the majors and a stiff or void in diamonds.

Yes maybe both contracts aren´t making, but I take the risk.

[jdonn]

Codo, on Apr 11 2008, 02:31 AM, said:

If pd has xxxx,Axx,x,Akxxx we are close to make 5 Club on a cross ruff and they will make 4 Spade. Same is true for nearly any hand where partner provides one trick in the majors and a stiff or void in diamonds.

Yes maybe both contracts aren´t making, but I take the risk.

Wow. What did partner think you had for the 4♣ bid there??? Was he barred?

[P_Marlowe]

Pass.

I have read "something absurd" as an option,
but anything else than Pass falls in this category,
and I wonder what other "absurd" bids you were
thinking off.

You did a good job with regards to putting the
opponents under pressure, now its time to see
if they guessed right.

With kind regards
Marlowe

[helene_t]

Pass. I have the policy of violating the LOTT only once per board.

[gnasher]

helene_t, on Apr 11 2008, 11:37 AM, said:

Pass. I have the policy of violating the LOTT only once per board.

If your style is to open 1♠ with a 4xx4 shape, then either partner has five clubs or he has only three spades, and the total number of trumps is 18. Doesn't that mean that you're allowed to compete to the four level in a lower suit, as long as you don't think they're going to double you?

Please note that the "L"OTT doesn't form part of my decision-making process on this sort of hand. I'm just trying to understand those for whom it does.

[helene_t]

Right, 4♣ was not a LOTT violation playing English Acol. My bad.

[Codo]

jdonn, on Apr 11 2008, 04:47 PM, said:

Codo, on Apr 11 2008, 02:31 AM, said:

If pd has xxxx,Axx,x,Akxxx we are close to make 5 Club on a cross ruff and they will make 4 Spade. Same is true for nearly any hand where partner provides one trick in the majors and a stiff or void in diamonds.

Yes maybe both contracts aren´t making, but I take the risk.

Wow. What did partner think you had for the 4♣ bid there??? Was he barred?

This exactly is the right question
Does my pd think that I can have a hand as strong as this?

Had you bid 4 Club with the example hand?

If you had and this is what partner expects, then you should pass.

I think 4 Club was a kind of random try to confuse the rest of the table and steal the contract. Maybe this attempt failed.

Now I have new and surprising informations- a 4 Spade bid, a passing partner.
I try to reevaluate my hand now.

[sheepman]

Scoring: IMP

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The hand was something like the one above. Thought 4S was makable/making so I seem to have gone wrong somewhere.

At the table North hesitated over 4♠, and South bid 5♣. I, east, bid 5♠, which went 2 off for 100, director was called and ruled table result stood, appeals comitee upheld the decsion.

Feel free to acuse me of making a 2 way shot with 5♠, though no one else seems to have mentioned that, which to me seems poor from an appeals comitee.

Comments?

[CSGibson]

5 clubs is on a 2-1 trump break and a finnese. Thats a vulnerable game I want to be in, even going down. Do you think partner should raise to 5 clubs with his hand?

[gnasher]

When North hesitated over 4♠, he might have been thinking either about doubling or about bidding on. Since the hesitation doesn't demonstrably suggest 5♣, South's 5♣ bid is allowed. Having decided that, the committee would have had no reason to consider the quality of your decision to bid 5♠.

If they had decided that South's 5♣ bid to be illegal, as I understand the Laws your motives for bidding 5♠ are irrelevant. What matters is whether the damage was caused by South's 5♣ bid, or by a subsequent irrational, wild or gambling action made by your side.

[Apollo81]

I think pass is clearcut with South's hand.

[jdonn]

Hernia coming.... how can north pass over 4♠? HE HAS AKTXX OF CLUBS AND XXX OF SPADES!!!!

[helene_t]

4♣ was Gerber and pass was DOPI. The tanking was because he wasn't sure whether ♣K counted as a KC.

[ArtK78]

helene_t, on Apr 11 2008, 11:53 AM, said:

4♣ was Gerber and pass was DOPI. The tanking was because he wasn't sure whether ♣K counted as a KC.

HA HA! That is funny. I would love to see the committee's reaction to that argument.