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#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2008-April-08, 17:22

Scoring: MP

You had a bidding misunderstanding and arrived in 6.
LHO leads a small and RHO plays the K.
What is the best play here? Opps are no experts.
- Is a squeeze possible?
- I played one trump, A, K and ruff followed by trumps. But maybe it is better to simply play 4 tumps from the start..maybe opps will discard a from a 4 card?
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Posted 2008-April-08, 18:28

I'd play three trumps, three hearts and another trump.

Oppos may discard badly, but there is the legitimate chance that LHO started with four diamonds and a club honour, and is squeezed without the count.
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Posted 2008-April-09, 02:03

I'd cash four trumps and one more heart before deciding what to do. This is the position:



At this point I have to decide what to play for. The possibilities are:

(1) LHO has both club honours or Hx- lead a club to the 10

(2) LHO has a club honour and four diamonds - cash A to squeeze him, as described by Halo

(3) RHO has both club honours - If his remaining cards are:
0-1-3-3 - play A and three rounds of diamonds, ruffing, then a club to the 10
0-2-2-3 - play three rounds of diamonds to strip him of his long heart, then as before
0-0-4-3 - play A to strip him of his long diamond, then as before
If he ever bears KQ, you give up a club whilst you still have control of whatever other suits he has left.

A priori, (1) has the best odds and (2) the worst (I think). They're all very close, however, and the lead affects things. With KQ LHO might have led a club, making (1) less attractive. With only small clubs, LHO might have led a club, making (3) less attractive.

Other considerations: (1) is the easiest to play, requiring no card-reading, and (3) is the hardest. (3) is the most fun.
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Posted 2008-April-09, 14:39

Thanks for the answers. Interesting.
I played all trumps, but it seems crucial to keep a trump.
I will have to study this a bit more to grasp why keeping that trump is important. (The difficulty remains of course to read the situation)
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Posted 2008-April-09, 14:53

Btw, we don't have the 8 by any chance?

In the diagram shown by gnasher, I would play a club to the T - maybe RHO won't find the club return when LHO has a club honor and four diamonds.
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Posted 2008-April-09, 16:25

cherdano, on Apr 9 2008, 09:53 PM, said:

In the diagram shown by gnasher, I would play a club to the T - maybe RHO won't find the club return when LHO has a club honor and four diamonds.

It might be better to do this at trick two, before they've had a chance to signal with their trumps.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-April-09, 17:39

4 spades and all hearts will squeeeze West if he has a club honnor and 4 diamonds.

What Halo said actually.

There are also some alternatives cashing only 2 trumps and some red cards for a semi-elimination.
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