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Poll: Your bid? (19 member(s) have cast votes)

Your bid?

  1. pass (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. X (3 votes [15.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.79%

  3. 6 Heart (15 votes [78.95%])

    Percentage of vote: 78.95%

  4. 7Club (1 votes [5.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

  5. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. abstain, silly 6 club bid (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   Codo 

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Posted 2008-April-08, 02:43

Scoring: IMP


The bidding proceeds:
Pd bad guy you worse guy
1 NT     4     6     6
pass pass


1 NT was 12-14, no 5 card major
4 Diamond was long
6 Club was bid because you have no tool to show this hand after that preempt.
Pass from Partner was not discussed in depth, so common sense is your only guide. But your partner is quite good and had won some international titels, so she knows what to do.

And now you bid a confident....?
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Posted 2008-April-08, 02:52

6 seems normal to me.
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Posted 2008-April-08, 02:54

6 seems the obvious bid, and that is what I would do.

If you could trust partner not to have any values in diamonds, there are only 17HCP outside diamonds, and partner has most or all of them. So, bashing 7 isn't as crazy as it looks at first. But they can still bid 7 over 7, and another point in favor of bidding 6 is that it is now possible for partner to bid 7 over 7 with the right hand.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-April-08, 05:03

I voted for 6, but I don't think it completely clear. If partner's pass suggests bidding on to 6NT or 7, he may have a wasted card in diamonds.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2008-April-08, 05:25

Until I voted, the poll was unanimous to bid 6.

I hear all of the arguments, and i still say take your plus.

Partner has a 12-14 NT. His failure to double is based not just on lack of diamond values, but also is based on a lack of knowledge of the purpose of your 6 bid. He heard the opponents bid 6 over 6. He does not know you bid to make.

Partner assumes that you know far more about his hand than he knows about your hand. To make 6 (let alone 7 or 7) you need some very specific cards in partner's hand. Even if all of his values are outside of diamonds, you may still go down in 6 or 7.

Take the plus (and you will go plus in 6x).
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Posted 2008-April-08, 05:33

ArtK78, on Apr 8 2008, 06:25 AM, said:

Partner has a 12-14 NT. 

Ahh - missed that.

OK, I still bid 6, but much less confidently. And yes, double merits serious consideration.
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2008-April-08, 08:23

6
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Posted 2008-April-08, 08:32

dbl

I dunno who's making what, so go for the plus
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Posted 2008-April-08, 08:42

6 wtp?
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Posted 2008-April-08, 09:00

6. Feels like a 30 point deck to me. Not sure I'll make a FP over 7.

I feel pretty good about 6, and I'm only mildly worried about missing 7.
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