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What is best play? Spade back, Club, Trumps?

#1 User is offline   kgr 

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Posted 2008-March-29, 05:57

Scoring: IMP

1H-(1S)-2S-Pass
4H-All Pass

2S showed a limit raise with 3 card H.
LHO leads the K and you take it with the Ace.
What is the best play now:
- Club to setup a ruff
- Spade back to setup the J
- First play one or two rounds of ?
Note: Opps are no beginners, but certainly no experts! Maybe on some lines they will not find the best defence.
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Posted 2008-March-29, 12:32

kgr, on Mar 29 2008, 06:57 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1H-(1S)-2S-Pass
4H-All Pass
2S showed a limit raise with 3 card H.
LHO leads the K and you take it with the Ace.
What is the best play now:
- Club to setup a ruff
- Spade back to setup the J
- First play one or two rounds of ?
Note: Opps are no beginners, but certainly no experts! Maybe on some lines they will not find the best defence.


I guess to lead a . I hope to make at least 7 (including a ruff). 2 and 2. If I lead an early . LHO may duck, allowing his partner to ruff.
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Posted 2008-March-30, 05:43

nige1, on Mar 29 2008, 08:32 PM, said:

kgr, on Mar 29 2008, 06:57 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1H-(1S)-2S-Pass
4H-All Pass
2S showed a limit raise with 3 card H.
LHO leads the K and you take it with the Ace.
What is the best play now:
- Club to setup a ruff
- Spade back to setup the J
- First play one or two rounds of ?
Note: Opps are no beginners, but certainly no experts! Maybe on some lines they will not find the best defence.


I guess to lead a . I hope to make at least 7 (including a ruff). 2 and 2. If I lead an early . LHO may duck, allowing his partner to ruff.

Thanks for the answer.
I started with 1 trump and then played . RHO took this and returned a trump and trumps were 3-1 with RHO.
...It is clearly better to start with a in trick 2.
RHO had something like:
x
xxx
KJTx
KJxxx
I should make?:
If LHO takes the and returns a for RHO who plays trump. I take this trump in my hand a ruff a and draw trumps and play a to dummy.
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Posted 2008-March-30, 10:44

nige1, on Mar 29 2008, 01:32 PM, said:

kgr, on Mar 29 2008, 06:57 AM, said:

Scoring: IMP

1H-(1S)-2S-Pass
4H-All Pass
2S showed a limit raise with 3 card H.
LHO leads the K and you take it with the Ace.
What is the best play now:
- Club to setup a ruff
- Spade back to setup the J
- First play one or two rounds of ?
Note: Opps are no beginners, but certainly no experts! Maybe on some lines they will not find the best defence.


I guess to lead a . I hope to make at least 7 (including a ruff). 2 and 2. If I lead an early . LHO may duck, allowing his partner to ruff.

Nice point about the duck-and-ruff defense if declarer returns an immediate spade.

There is, though, another way to look at it. A poor West will grab the spade willy-nilly, and if trumps are 4-0 that will be very helpful. A good West might decide to grab the spade rather than allow partner's trumps to be weakened; the duck defense isn't automatic.

Finally, if you play a club at trick 2, a really good West can win it and play a low spade himself anyway -- especially if RHO's x is smaller than declarer's x. This defense seems to work against the actual lie.

It's partly a psychological question whether excellent defenders (digression I know) are more likely to find the spade ruff if declarer plays a spade, or if they have to play it themselves.
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Posted 2008-March-31, 05:14

Playing a in T2 seems best. Even if LHO wins and returns a low for the ruff, you can ruff a , draw trumps and play a to the 9. You win if LHO has the K or JT.

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