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Wat 2 dew?

Poll: What Bid? (19 member(s) have cast votes)

What Bid?

  1. 1NT (2 votes [10.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.53%

  2. 2S (12 votes [63.16%])

    Percentage of vote: 63.16%

  3. 2NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 3C (1 votes [5.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

  5. 3D (3 votes [15.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.79%

  6. 3S (1 votes [5.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

  7. 4S (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   glen 

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Posted 2008-April-01, 06:47

This came up today in a morning match. Partner opens 1♠, Blue Team Club + Benito's 1M-3m Roman Jump Raises, your bid?

Scoring: MP

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Posted 2008-April-01, 06:51

2swtp?
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Posted 2008-April-01, 06:59

2♠ seems best to me as well (Especially given that Better Bidding with Bergen discusses a mildly constructive single raise structure)

I'm shocked to see votes for 3m... Distorting your hand and promising a missing 4th trump seems questionable at the best of times. Doing so with 3=3=4=3 seems especially bizzarre.
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Posted 2008-April-01, 08:04

I would show this as a 4-card limit raise. I do actually have a fourth trump, hrothgar.

If partner opens on random balanced 11-counts with no aces I would bid 2S.
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Posted 2008-April-01, 08:14

Why would I bid 2♠? I have a 15 count.
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Posted 2008-April-01, 08:17

I think 2♠ is enough despite the fact that I have ♣1. If it's a joker and I can put it where I like, I will let it be a spade and treat it as limit.

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Posted 2008-April-01, 08:19

jtfanclub, on Apr 1 2008, 04:14 PM, said:

Why would I bid 2♠? I have a 15 count.

I assume you count ♣1 as an ace, fair enough.

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Posted 2008-April-01, 08:30

huh..? the hand changed completely! What happnened?

Funny thing is.. I still bid 2♠ :)
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Posted 2008-April-01, 08:45

whereagles, on Apr 1 2008, 03:30 PM, said:

huh..? the hand changed completely! What happnened?

me too. what happened to my 4th spade?

how come it had 4 spades when whereagles posted and when I posted, but not (I assume) when hrothgar posted in the middle... and now it doesn.t

Now I bid 2S
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Posted 2008-April-01, 09:16

Couldn't find any bidding theory for this kind of 15-counts with four trumps including a joker which turns out to be a club. So I abstain.
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Posted 2008-April-01, 10:15

FrancesHinden, on Apr 1 2008, 02:45 PM, said:

whereagles, on Apr 1 2008, 03:30 PM, said:

huh..? the hand changed completely! What happnened?

me too. what happened to my 4th spade?

how come it had 4 spades when whereagles posted and when I posted, but not (I assume) when hrothgar posted in the middle... and now it doesn.t

Now I bid 2S

4 spades? I saw this:

KQx
Ax
xxxx
xxxx

ok, who's hacking the forum!!??
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Posted 2008-April-01, 10:25

On a related story about change:

Miracles of Evolution
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Posted 2008-April-01, 10:25

FrancesHinden, on Apr 1 2008, 05:45 PM, said:

whereagles, on Apr 1 2008, 03:30 PM, said:

huh..? the hand changed completely! What happnened?

me too. what happened to my 4th spade?

how come it had 4 spades when whereagles posted and when I posted, but not (I assume) when hrothgar posted in the middle... and now it doesn.t

Now I bid 2S

When I posted this morning the hand was (approximately)

♠ AKQ
♥ JT3
♦ J753
♣ 841

I recall 3=3=4=3 shape, an 11 count, and 9 losers
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Posted 2008-April-01, 10:31

Well, right now it shows 4 trumps again.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-April-01, 10:35

I see only 3 trumps, AKQ. But I do see the ♣1.

2♠
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Posted 2008-April-01, 10:36

han, on Apr 1 2008, 11:31 AM, said:

Well, right now it shows 4 trumps again.

Or then again, maybe not.

Sounds like a vote with dubious value - we've got enough polling irregularities around here to be an honorary district of Florida!
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Posted 2008-April-01, 12:33

I don't know what others see, but i still see

♠ AKQ
♥ J103
♦ J753
♣ 841
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Posted 2008-April-01, 12:36

I really hope that Glen isn't wasting everyone's time with an ill considered April Fool's day joke...
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Posted 2008-April-01, 12:37

I am enjoying this thread greatly so far. Maybe "Non-Natural" in the forum title refers to the vortex of the universe in which this ever-changing hand with imaginary cards exists.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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Posted 2008-April-01, 13:31

Walddk, on Apr 1 2008, 01:33 PM, said:

I don't know what others see, but i still see

♠ AKQ
♥ J103
♦ J753
♣ 841

Yeah, now it's this hand again, stop it Glen!
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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