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#1 User is offline   han 

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Posted 2008-March-15, 23:39

Arend and I have been tinkering with our 2/1 sequences this week. What we have now is quite similar to what whereagles posted a while ago, although of course infinitely better. :)

I thought he and perhaps others too might like to see it, so here goes:

1S-2C shows either a balanced GF or an honest GF with clubs. Then:

2D = minimum but denies 4 cards in the other major.
...2H=ask, typically balanced. natural responses (2S showing 6).
...2S=artificial, honest GF with clubs, denies support.
...2NT=slam try in spades with honest clubs.
...3C = very good clubs.
...3D= at least 4-6 in diamonds and clubs.
...3H= at least 4-6 in hearts and clubs.
...3S= picture jump.
...3NT= 4333 choice of games.
...4S= sign off.

2H = catch all with extra values.
...2S = ask, often balanced. Then:
......2NT= any 6-4 (3C asks).
......3C,3D= exactly 5-4.
......3H= undefined for now.
......3S= 6-card major.
......3NT= balanced 17-19.
...2NT = slam try in spades with honest clubs.
etc.

2S = 5-4 in the majors, may or may not have extras.
... 2NT = ask, often balanced.
... 3C = very good clubs.
... 3D = at least 4-6.
... 3H = slam try in hearts with honest clubs.
... 3S = slam try in spades with honest clubs.
... 3NT = about 15-17 natural.

2NT = single suiter in spades, extras.
... 3C = 2+ spades, asks for shortness (no/l/m/h)
... 3D, 3H = at least 4-6.
... 3S = very good clubs.

3C, 3D, 3H = at least 5-5, extras.

3S = semi-solid spades, extras.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-March-16, 02:51

Thanks for sharing your work.

One thing I found useful in Nightmare is that their sequences give you the ability to distinguish between balanced hands with 2 or 3 clubs on the presumption that responder will often have real clubs and knowledge of the 8 club fit will be useful. So for example 1s-2c-2h-2s(ask) then 3h could be 17-19 balanced with 3cl, and 3nt 17-19 balanced without 3cl.
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Posted 2008-March-16, 08:26

Make the space-consuming 5-5 show expected short: 3m =oM; 3H =D. Other 5-5 in rebids allowing relay.
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Posted 2008-March-17, 08:57

Well, you let go a lot of naturality to accomodate for all sorts of hands. My scheme wanted to retain that naturality.
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Posted 2008-March-17, 11:41

Yeah it is quite artificial right now. Maybe it will evolve into something more natural as we put more work into it. Still, I think that using 2D as some sort of catch-all is the way to go.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2008-March-17, 11:44

han, on Mar 17 2008, 12:41 PM, said:

Yeah it is quite artificial right now. Maybe it will evolve into something more natural as we put more work into it. Still, I think that using 2D as some sort of catch-all is the way to go.

I agree there. I use two versions of that. One with a partner who doesn't like to open 1NT with a five card major, so we use it to split up our balanced ranges (among other things.) The other with a partner who always opens 1NT with a five card major, so we incorporate transfers for openers third bid.
Please let me know about any questions or interest or bug reports about GIB.
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